Forgive me for jumping in here. Just signed up on this forum + don't have my sea legs but you gentlemen are obviously the go-to guys on the subject of Savage 24's. I've got a 30-30 12ga that's been hiking through the woods with me for about 25 yrs. Won't part with it ever. Came with 3 choke tubes when I Bought it new. I installed the modified choke on it at that time (The tube with 2 notches) and always used it that way. I'd like to try out the other two choke tubes I have for it but I can't remember if the full choke is the one with 1 notch or the one with 3 notches. Is there a general rule or am I gonna have to just shoot it at paper & see what the pattern looks like?
Just started to go through my Fathers rifles. One is a Stevens 22-410 Model that I would like to have restored. I would like to have it put back into Original condition which is were I am stuck, seems the stock is the blond WOOD version and the forearm is the darker brown TENITE version (with only 410 barrel marked on the inside (have seen them also marked 22-410. I suspect one or the other has been replaced and want to make sure I will be looking for the correct replacement so the question is did all Stevens 22-410 Models come with Tenite ? Following the flow chart below it looks like they all had tenite but want to be sure.
Thanks in advance
7. Does the gun have a synthetic (tenite) stock? If yes go to #7A. If no go to #7B.
7A. The gun is a Stevens 22-410 Model. It is marked on the left side of the shotgun barrel as Stevens 22-410.
7B. The gun is an early Savage 24 Model. These guns are marked on the right side of the frame as either a Model 24, 24A, 24B, 24E, or 24H.
The tenite tends to get brittle as it ages. I think your safest assumption is that it was originally all-tenite, but then the stock broke and he replaced it with a wooden one. But I s'pose anything is possible.
The Stevens 22-410 is a great little combination gun, very versatile. The very first ones had walnut stocks, 1939. But soon Stevens changed the stocks to Tenite (plastic) as they did on many of their rifles and shotguns at the time, I don't believe they ever mixed a wood butt stock with a Tenite forearm. Most all 22-410's with wood (walnut) stocks are replacements. As stated above the Tenite stocks looked pretty good, but don't always holdup well. My own 22-410's have barrels with no markings, just 410 marked, or 22-410 marked. I have several complete sets of Tenite stocks (not for sale) which have been replaced with original Stevens walnut stocks or very early Savage 24 walnut stocks. I have the Tenit stocks to make the 22-410's original if wanted. Original Tenite stock parts come up from time to time on the gun auction sites and Ebay, but good ones are not cheap. Also, the mounting bolt for the wood stock is not the same as the mounting bolt for the Tenit butt stock. Good luck with your restoration project and let us know how it turns out.
Seems I may never know which was the original configuration so I will be in the market for both a Tenite Stock & a Walnut forearm. That way I would have both bases covered and will probably restore with Walnut stock. Is there anyway to know using only the weapon construction or markings to help ? since the stock Mounting bolt is different is there any other differences that may not have been changed to give a clue?
The other project is a 1913 22HP Takedown 1899H (I think its an H but has a B on the underside of the barrel forward of the threads), Straight stock (Not sure how to distinguish a Perch belly stock but read they were found on 1899B Models), 20" barrel, Classic Crescent Rifle but (Brass), Heavy Schnoble forearm, Lyman No 1A rear sight. Short Bead Front sight, Serial No 146xxx.
I was considering having them both striped and rebluing.
I would say there's a 98% chance that your 22-410 originally had Tenite butt stock and forearm on it. A good option would be to purchase a wood (walnut?) forearm which you can use the present forearm iron and take down catch on. Try Gun Parts Corp. or one of the auction sites. Then refinish both stock parts to match, if possible. You may want to re blue the barrels IF they really require it, but I would not try to blue the receiver (originally had case coloring) as they mostly turn out a plumb color, not very attractive IMHO. Since this is a family gun try to keep it as original as possible, again IMHO. As for your Savage 99 I would refer you to the Savage Shooters forum. Good luck with the restorations.
Hi Guys, Need some help. I aquired a Model 24 frame/receiver thats pretty much complete and is in excellent condition. Id really like to restore it. Im trying to identify what model it is so I can look for a barrel assembly. Please bare with me in trying to describe the markings I have on it. Looks to be color case hardened, has a "Z" (could be an "N" but it would be elongated if it was)on the left side of the tang, on the inside left of the receiver in the rough cast area is what looks like "21" and a large diamond that were cast into it. Holding the frame upside down on the inside left of the machined area that the lower barrel rests in is stamped "Q" "L" then 2 symbols one looks like a "C" but with a tab sticking out of left center and the other is an oval that comes around and forms an arrow pointing right. Dont know if these parts are original or if it helps in identifying my 24 but both firing pins look identical at approx .412" long, the selector plunger is .155" dia. The distance between firing pin holes is .420"
I forgot to mention in my previous post regarding trying to identify my 24 is that it has two holes on the left side of frame. They run horizontally and start right behind the breach face, are approx. .485" apart and are tapped to the same thread pitch and size as the firing pin retaining screws. Could be be for scope base done by gunsmith or possibly a factory model with a scope?
Welcome. As a start those two D&T holes behind the breech are mot likely for mounting one of the receiver/peep sights made for the Model 24 years ago. Probably drilled by a gunsmith years ago. Pictures would help identify your receiver. Parts, including barrels, are often available on GB auction site and Ebay. Keep us informed as to your progress.
I try and try, but cannot identify this gun to model number. Owner says it's marked Model 24, has 19-inch .410/.22lr barrels. I haven't seen the actual gun, so cannot verify. I reckon it's either a prototype 24C or a cut-down of another model, or the owner is wrong about the shotgun bore.
As I wrote in the introduction of this thread, the flow chart only pertains to factory original guns. Modifications nullify its usefulness as a tool. None of the 24C guns ever had brazed barrels or were they shorter than 20 inches. It looks like someone took and original 24, cut and recrowned the barrels, added a more modern front sight, and the stock is from a Savage 94 shotgun. Because it has tip-off scope mounts and he says it's marked only with "Model 24", That would put the gun somewhere between the mid 1950's to early 1960's. Hope my diagnosis helps.
Post by oldnavychief on Nov 1, 2015 20:50:12 GMT -5
This was a great post. Thank you very much for your drop down Q&As. I'd appreciate your help in the following.
Ok, I've got an early Savage Model 24 22LR /410. I'd like to narrow done the year if possible. I saw on the net a Stevens/Savage code system. 1949 through whatever. It mentions the little oval with a number and letter. The letter being, he says, the year. Looking at my gun I can read in the oval a tiny 14 on the receiver and tiny 12 on the barrel action. However, I can't read the letter which within the oval on the receiver and barrel are the same, but look more like tiny vertical parallel lines...not an H.
Please consider. The gun says on the right of the receiver that its a model 24....no A, B, or C following. There is a patent date on receiver. Of course there's no serial number. The left side of the receiver has the tiny oval and also the barrel action (marked as above). Inside the receiver and the barrel are stamped with an odd rectangle (with tails at corners), B, and N. Barrel and receiver stamps match. The barrel is stamped 3" chamber and 22 Long Rifle. Barrel is solid welded barrels in deep black/blue 24 inches long. It's a tang mounted barrel release/lock lever. The right side has the up/down 22/410 button selector. The stock and forearm are beautiful matching walnut. Back of barrel is grooved for a scope. Iron rear sights complete and front sight a blade.