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Apr 24, 2016 2:14:54 GMT -5
Post by cv18sro on Apr 24, 2016 2:14:54 GMT -5
New to the forum.
I have a 24V Series D I received years ago when my grandfather died. It is 223/20 guage. Wood stock with nice case hardened action. I want to start using it for coyotes etc and maybe turkeys eventually. It has a 3 inch chamber.
Can anyone tell me what twist the 223 has and does anyone know what choke the barrel is on these guns. It has a D serial number so I believe it was made in 1952.
I would rate the gun with my untrained eye at 85%. Just a few safe dings and minor scratches in the stock, from light use. Bluing shows only minor wear from being taken in and out of a case. Original sights. I will reply with a couple pictures. I have no desire to sell it but was curious if anyone knew an approx value. I want to put a 2.5 power scope on it as my eyes suck with iron sights, to many eye surgeries. Other than the scope, I thought about having chokes installed but then changed my mind and did not want to hurt the value and I wanted to leave it the same as my grandfather bought it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Also curious what 223 loads would work best, factory or reloads. I already reload for numerous other rifle calibers and have dies.
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New guy
Apr 24, 2016 2:19:28 GMT -5
Post by cv18sro on Apr 24, 2016 2:19:28 GMT -5
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Apr 24, 2016 2:22:35 GMT -5
Post by cv18sro on Apr 24, 2016 2:22:35 GMT -5
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Apr 24, 2016 6:31:58 GMT -5
Post by painter on Apr 24, 2016 6:31:58 GMT -5
I can't help with most of your questions except if it has a serial number it is post 1968.
There is some good info on Savage24.com
Congrats on your rifle!
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New guy
Apr 24, 2016 8:46:55 GMT -5
Post by Mr. Polecat on Apr 24, 2016 8:46:55 GMT -5
AFAIK, all of the .223 Savage 24s were 1:14 twist. Yeah, it's really slow and won't stabilize anything heavier than 55gr. When selecting ammo or loading for it, it is helpful to think of it as a .222 with a larger case capacity instead of a .223.
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New guy
Apr 24, 2016 14:03:13 GMT -5
Post by painter on Apr 24, 2016 14:03:13 GMT -5
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New guy
Apr 24, 2016 21:40:14 GMT -5
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Post by hairytully on Apr 24, 2016 21:40:14 GMT -5
If you search this forum for 223 twist, you will find plenty of info on 223 projectiles and the limitations of a 1-14 twist barrel. You have a great firearm, with plenty of personal history. I think using it for predator hunting is a perfect fit.
As well as looking into a 2.5X scope, please consider the many 1-4x and 1-6x scopes popular with three gunners. I have a Savage 24 in. 223/12G, with a 1-6x Millet or Vortex scope. 1X allows shotgunning with both eyes open and wind up to 6X for longer shots.
I have surprised myself with some 3 shot groups of 0.5-1.0 moa out to 200 yards. These have been with 55gn Nosler Ballistic Tips and factory loaded 55gn Sierra GameKing projectiles. Most 55s or above accuracy suffers and it depends on your individual results,but I've tried burning some cash and once groups are bigger than 2MOA I put them away. About maximum for me are 60gn Nosler Partitions or 63gn Sierras upto 2MOA. 50gn and smaller the 1-14 shines with mostly good to great groups. Leaf's advice is spot on, if it's loaded in 222 it should work well with your 1-14 barrel.
Also keep your barrel cool by firing 3 shots and allowing to cool for best results, or you will string your shots and get majorly frustrated as the groups open up. The shotgun barrel may not be regulated to the point of impact of your rifle barrel and there are fixes such as using shiming material between the barrels.
It's a fun gun, but you need to try a few loads to find what works best for your rifle barrel twist and pattern your shotgun for best results.
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Apr 25, 2016 7:08:23 GMT -5
Post by jrguerra on Apr 25, 2016 7:08:23 GMT -5
I agree with the low power scope option. Unless your range is extended, a low power scope has advantages over high power. More view - settles down faster for the shot - works better with the shotgun.
Your Grandfather left you a fine rifle - he had good taste ! Use it well.
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ragnar
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I am going to live through this even if it kills me.
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Apr 25, 2016 16:40:28 GMT -5
Post by ragnar on Apr 25, 2016 16:40:28 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum new member with the neat model 24's. Grandfather did you a big favor. I hope you enjoy them. Hang out here now and then and shoot the bull with us. We'd love to have you.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:04:41 GMT -5
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Post by cv18sro on Apr 25, 2016 17:04:41 GMT -5
Thanks for info and advice. I got some factory 55grain BT to try and have a bunch of 50 grain Sierra bltzkings I can load up that I use in my 22 250.
You could be right about year it was built but I remember him having it before then in early 70s but I could be wrong.
Any idea what it's worth? Not for sale but for insurance. Would have something happen but I want to replace it if something did.
I will put my 2.5 scope on it for now. It's a steel tube Weaver and upgrade it later to a 1.5 to 5 or something.
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Apr 25, 2016 18:32:29 GMT -5
Post by vancmike on Apr 25, 2016 18:32:29 GMT -5
What's it worth? We've discussed this often on this forum. Mdl 24's seem to be priced/sold higher in the Midwest, south and east coast more than west of the Rockies. Here in the PacNW, alas, they're not that much in demand and your gun would probably sell for less. Insure it for around $600.
Edit: Or.....after reading a few other posts, $1200!
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Apr 26, 2016 6:26:17 GMT -5
Post by neilrr on Apr 26, 2016 6:26:17 GMT -5
As vancmike stated Model 24's are going for fairly high prices here in the NE. At a recent gun show a .223/20ga in 90% condition or better that the dealer was asking $950 out the door actually sold for $850. Most Model 24's are in the $550 and up range, even those in fair to good shape.
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ragnar
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Apr 27, 2016 7:47:08 GMT -5
Post by ragnar on Apr 27, 2016 7:47:08 GMT -5
Yep. Go to the Guns International site and see what they are selling for. It'll make you realize what a nice thing your grand father left to you. And as always, these guys are correct about prices being different in different parts of the country. I can see why model 24's would not be as popular out west where shots are often at longer ranges. The model 24 isn't a long range gun. But here in the south where the vegetation is thicker and ranges are shorter, they are ideal so people use them a lot more.
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