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Post by prestoncohunter on May 7, 2020 12:30:54 GMT -5
I just recently got my first 24 a 24F in 223/12 with the top mount scope mount. I have mounted a Nikon ProStaff 3x9 on it and zero'ed the 223 barrel and it groups better than I figured it would. Like most the shotgun barrel does not register to the same point of impact but I have found that using the top of the duplex post centers the pattern so it's really pretty easy to "Kentucky windage" the shotgun barrel. Now for my first question, I have heard some saying that the shotgun was the death of many a scope, has anyone here run into that problem. It really doesn't make sense to me, a quality scope should be able to hold up to recoil of magnum rifle calibers, why would a shotgun take more of a toll? To me even 3 inch mags don't seem to have that much kick, sure a bit but not what I would call punishing. Of course for years I hunted with a 3.5 inch double so maybe I just don't notice recoil.
Next question is there a way to get a general year of production by the serial number. This gun has a serial of F82xxxx.
And lastly (for now) how many chokes did these guns come with from the factory, this one has an extra full installed but was the only one with the gun. I have learned that they use the Winchoke system so getting other chokes isn't a big deal but was curious. And along the lines of chokes, if a person were to install an extra long choke (extending beyond the barrel) would that affect the consistency of the rifle barrel.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by mnbobster on May 7, 2020 13:25:38 GMT -5
The scope caveat is for the rimfire grooved .22 top barrels. If you mount on a rail, you don't have to worry unless you buy a scope that cannot handle 12 gauge recoil.
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Post by comboobsessed on May 7, 2020 22:38:33 GMT -5
I just recently got my first 24 a 24F in 223/12 with the top mount scope mount. I have mounted a Nikon ProStaff 3x9 on it and zero'ed the 223 barrel and it groups better than I figured it would. Like most the shotgun barrel does not register to the same point of impact but I have found that using the top of the duplex post centers the pattern so it's really pretty easy to "Kentucky windage" the shotgun barrel. Now for my first question, I have heard some saying that the shotgun was the death of many a scope, has anyone here run into that problem. It really doesn't make sense to me, a quality scope should be able to hold up to recoil of magnum rifle calibers, why would a shotgun take more of a toll? To me even 3 inch mags don't seem to have that much kick, sure a bit but not what I would call punishing. Of course for years I hunted with a 3.5 inch double so maybe I just don't notice recoil. Next question is there a way to get a general year of production by the serial number. This gun has a serial of F82xxxx. And lastly (for now) how many chokes did these guns come with from the factory, this one has an extra full installed but was the only one with the gun. I have learned that they use the Winchoke system so getting other chokes isn't a big deal but was curious. And along the lines of chokes, if a person were to install an extra long choke (extending beyond the barrel) would that affect the consistency of the rifle barrel. Thanks in advance. If the mount is labeled, please let me know. Very interested in finding one, but the amount of conflicting info on 24s makes things hard. May have to purchase another rifle just to steal the mount and resell it.
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Post by mnbobster on May 8, 2020 7:57:37 GMT -5
I am guessing that the 24F uses a Weaver #74 just like the 24V. The 24V (I had one) was drilled and tapped and I believe it came with the mount. I doubt they changed this. I have a 24S-D, with the rimfire grooves on the .22LR barrel. I gave up trying to use mounts ("Perfect Adapter") with the shotgun as it would eject my red dot when I fired 20 gauge slugs (I suspect 3" loads would be similar). Others have had better luck. I found that one of the rimfire grooves was shallower than the other. I had a gunsmith "fix" it, but I am sticking with my Lyman 53D peep sight and a Williams Firesight (Marlin 60) front.
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Post by prestoncohunter on May 8, 2020 8:48:19 GMT -5
Yes it's a Weaver #74 mount.
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Post by comboobsessed on May 8, 2020 11:01:29 GMT -5
Ahh, that's the other style. Some late model 24Fs had a Side mount, supposedly made by bsquare. Will be calling a couple guys later today who specialize in in 24s to see if I can figure out a source or at least confirm a part number. Best of luck to you!
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Post by comboobsessed on May 8, 2020 11:02:49 GMT -5
Oh,as to year of production email Savage customer support. They will give production date if they have it, although their records are not complete or always accurate.
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Post by prestoncohunter on May 8, 2020 12:18:39 GMT -5
Thanks on the email suggestion. I have done so, will be interesting to see how fast or if they respond.
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Post by prestoncohunter on May 13, 2020 12:34:00 GMT -5
For those who have emailed Savage, how long did it take for a response?
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Post by comboobsessed on May 13, 2020 14:25:06 GMT -5
For those who have emailed Savage, how long did it take for a response? It was within 24 hours for me. I filed the ticket as a historical request.
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Post by prestoncohunter on May 15, 2020 14:45:41 GMT -5
I heard back today from Savage. The twist is 1 in 9, but they didn't give any info on manufacturing year.
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Post by vancmike on May 18, 2020 12:13:17 GMT -5
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Post by prestoncohunter on May 19, 2020 7:49:39 GMT -5
Heard back on manufacture date: Sept 1999
Interesting link. This is what Savage emailed me back "Based on the serial number provided, your 223 barrel is a 1 in 9 twist."
So I guess the only way to know is to check it myself. Since info from the manufacture is conflicting.
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