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Post by comboobsessed on Jul 18, 2020 20:33:12 GMT -5
I have a 17 hmr/12g Savage 24f, and a 30-06/13g Finn classic 612. I love both, but I was considering the other day what other combinations I would get if I had near unlimited cash to have a few guns made to my specifications.
45-70/12 and 357 magnum/12 probably top my list. What is your dream combo, available or not?
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Post by bigkelly on Jul 19, 2020 5:52:40 GMT -5
30-06/12 would probably be the one I'd lust after maybe 41mag over 20 or 12 as well
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Post by 24combo on Jul 19, 2020 19:20:07 GMT -5
A .223 over 20ga but with a quicker twist like 1/8 or 1/9 on the .223 barrel instead of the 1/12 the way they came from Savage.
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Post by jrguerra on Jul 20, 2020 6:43:35 GMT -5
The perfect combination firearm ? Well, if the frame was downsized for a small gauge, a .357 Magnum / 20 gauge would be great. But so would a .223 over 20 as expressed above in comments. Already have a pair of Campers, and a 30-30 / 12 Gauge, all 24s. .22 Magnum over .410 Remington SPR94 - that is a great woods walker.
So the above two would just be filling gaps I guess.
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Post by vancmike on Jul 20, 2020 12:12:11 GMT -5
Hmmm. 7-08 Remington over 20 gauge. Elegant and trim, especially with a tang sight. Scopes and 12 gauge are too clunky in my eyes.
BTW, .223 Rem twist in Sav. 24 is 1-14" . Worse than you thought!
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Post by tackdriver on Jul 20, 2020 15:36:37 GMT -5
223 and 20 my vote also
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Post by strangeranger on Aug 12, 2020 16:32:36 GMT -5
I've got a .223/20 Series D, had it for quite a while. Just picked up a .223/12 Series F haven't played with it yet, it needs some minor gunsmithing first. The perfect combo gun? For coyote, turkey or walking up woodchucks I've got it now, twice over. For bigger game, a bigger rifle barrel to match whatever you're hunting over a 12. .270, .280 or .30-06 will handle anything in North America except big bears. Fot them I'd like a .338 Win Mag/12. None of those would be possible in a 24 though so you'd be looking at an espen$ive European combo
I've fantasized about hunting Africa but that will never happen. Leopards are often taken at point blank range and sometimes at greater distances. Either way they need to be killed instantly so how about a 9.3x74R/12 combo for that specific application? Roughly the ballistics of a .35 Whelan in a common European rimmed cartridge
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Post by besk on Sept 22, 2020 18:59:04 GMT -5
357/20 gauge would be my favorite combo.
However, I have a 1950's 22/410 with the barrels cut to 19" with screw in chokes.
Also, have 16 ga. barrel with a 2.5 power Weaver scope adapted to it. Also have 14" 357 mag insert for the 16ga barrel. I don't fire full power loads in it however.
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Post by jeffb1911 on Oct 11, 2020 14:41:15 GMT -5
I'd have to say my ideas would have to do with not just the caliber, but the way it was made. I've been handling some of my Savage 24s cleaning out the safe. I have dad's side selector 22/410 and his front release 24. Although technically the same gun, they feel so different! Then i picked up the 24F in LR/12ga. That feels like a heavy pig compared to the old, but made by an artisian, 22/410. Even the 24H-DL in Mag/20 has a certain feel about it. The stocks are shaped well to fit so to speak. My 357/20 is almost that good. The 24F? No sculpting at all, just some plastic stocks thrown onto the action. Did i mention the 24F is HEAVY? Pick up one of the early Stevens 22/410 or early Savage 24 models and you will see what i mean. Just put together in a different way i guess-kind of like a sporter vs the military versions of the 1903 Springfield. The Savage 24, at least the early ones, were great for woods running for small game. You could carry one with some various 22 loads, and various 410 loadings, and be ready for about anything short of large game larger than deer. Or keep it by the back door to dispatch various small vermin. Anything larger i'd of course have something more serious on standby as well. But for a gun that comes to shoulder quickly and is made to hit quickly, those early models just have a certain feel to them that i think was taken away when they made them in the larger gauges. This only got worse with the 12ga coming out in the 24F. Sometimes just a little tap is needed, no need to carry a heavy hammer when the lighter one will do better. The 22/410 models, or even the light weight 22/20 models seem just right to me.
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Post by 24combo on Oct 11, 2020 16:53:19 GMT -5
I agree that there is a different feel to each model. I'm partial to the side and top levers to brake the action open.
Never liked the front of the trigger guard release though I have one on the camper model. Doesn't feel natural in that position.
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Post by comboobsessed on Oct 13, 2020 20:59:12 GMT -5
I'd have to say my ideas would have to do with not just the caliber, but the way it was made. I've been handling some of my Savage 24s cleaning out the safe. I have dad's side selector 22/410 and his front release 24. Although technically the same gun, they feel so different! Then i picked up the 24F in LR/12ga. That feels like a heavy pig compared to the old, but made by an artisian, 22/410. Even the 24H-DL in Mag/20 has a certain feel about it. The stocks are shaped well to fit so to speak. My 357/20 is almost that good. The 24F? No sculpting at all, just some plastic stocks thrown onto the action. Did i mention the 24F is HEAVY? Pick up one of the early Stevens 22/410 or early Savage 24 models and you will see what i mean. Just put together in a different way i guess-kind of like a sporter vs the military versions of the 1903 Springfield. The Savage 24, at least the early ones, were great for woods running for small game. You could carry one with some various 22 loads, and various 410 loadings, and be ready for about anything short of large game larger than deer. Or keep it by the back door to dispatch various small vermin. Anything larger i'd of course have something more serious on standby as well. But for a gun that comes to shoulder quickly and is made to hit quickly, those early models just have a certain feel to them that i think was taken away when they made them in the larger gauges. This only got worse with the 12ga coming out in the 24F. Sometimes just a little tap is needed, no need to carry a heavy hammer when the lighter one will do better. The 22/410 models, or even the light weight 22/20 models seem just right to me. I won't argue with the heavy, have a 17/12 gauge 24f and it is heavy, with the weight way out front. Although I do love the shape of the forearm and how it feels. I also really like the sights on my 24f. A little bit of gold nail polish on the front post and it's easy to shoot. |
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Post by bigkelly on Oct 14, 2020 6:43:21 GMT -5
Yea the 24F's a lot heavier but it is a 12 ga after all and has a choke already.One of mine is in 17 remington over 12 and I use it for turkey ( the 17 remington really wacks a coyote).The 12/30-30 works well for deer because I like the greater range for the 12 ga over the 20 ga.
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Post by vancmike on Nov 26, 2020 14:19:58 GMT -5
Far be it for me to contradict ol' Swamp Fox Kelly, but with the same shot size, 12 gauge doesn't go further than a 20. Just a lot more shot gets there.
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Post by 24combo on Dec 1, 2020 18:12:52 GMT -5
I've been debating opening the .357 mag to .357 max. over 20 ga. Just need to pick up some brass for that one.
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Post by ptypegreen on Dec 2, 2020 11:54:20 GMT -5
I opened my 357 Mag to Max. Unless you are a collector there is no downside. Starline makes Max brass now.
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