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Post by cas on Jan 8, 2013 23:03:49 GMT -5
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Post by jeffb1911 on Jan 9, 2013 0:12:20 GMT -5
His wife must be demanding that he sell some of his guns-but this way he can say "honestly honey, i'm trying but no one is buying them"!
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Post by ao on Jan 9, 2013 11:15:52 GMT -5
I saw that original listing, didn't figure it would sell at that price..to raise it? Must be the wife forcing him thing! ;D
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Post by littleguns on Jan 9, 2013 13:36:25 GMT -5
Raising the price on a gun that doesn't sell doesn't seem to make sense, intuitively, but I've seen the tactic work. I often help a local dealer load/unload at shows and recall a few years ago when he dragged a pretty nice Husqvarna double-barrel .410 from show to show for probably two years at $1,295. He (for reasons unclear to me) decided to raise the price to $1,895 and sold the gun within about two months. All it takes is one buyer at the right time, I guess. (But I will admit the same dealer has an old Winchester Model 58 .22 boy's rifle with a homemade stock that had been priced at $385 for over a year, so now the price is up to $5xx-something and still on the rack. Again, raising the price on a non-selling gun, or anything else, intuitively makes no sense to me. Maybe that's why I'm not rich -- no head for selling. ;D)
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Post by savagecombo on Jan 9, 2013 18:40:57 GMT -5
I looked at the listing again. The seller added new text. It was sold, but not on Gunbroker and I assume at $1849.
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Post by cas on Jan 10, 2013 0:39:45 GMT -5
What's it say? "WARNING IS AVY IS LDO HOLD A CURNLY WHEN I RUNK" ;D  |
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Post by Geoffrey Hebel on Jan 10, 2013 14:59:53 GMT -5
I have also seen this tactic work and, had a pretty good explanation of why it does sometimes explained to me. If the price is too low it can fall into the "too good to be true" category and instantly sends up red flags of whats wrong with it that they are letting it go at that price.
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Post by amck on Jan 13, 2013 13:51:25 GMT -5
What's it say? "WARNING IS AVY IS LDO HOLD A CURNLY WHEN I RUNK" ;D That is an awesome picture!! Wonder if the price of the weapon goes up with the incomprehensible warning (similar to an inverted jenny stamp)? |
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Post by campbellkids on Jan 14, 2013 20:39:21 GMT -5
Is this rifle factory? Or di someone nickel plate it? I can't believe that a nickel plated one would have a cheap stock on it and not a deluxe checkered stock.
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Post by oldfotoman on Jan 17, 2013 21:43:57 GMT -5
I too have seen this tactic work very often. I was an auto dealer for over, and a gun dealer for almost, 40 years.
Mr. Herbel had the right explanation. Many times when something appears too low priced, a buyer will assume there is something wrong with it that he just hasn't been able to find yet; but raise the price to something that seems more like a fair market value, and someone will jump on it.
As to campbellkids question, I also wonder. I'm certainly not an expert on Model 24s, but have owned a dozen or so over the years and have done some research before buying or trading for most of them. From everything I remember, Savage made quite a few with nickle receivers, but I don't recall ever seeing or reading of factory nickle barrels and receivers. I could be wrong.
I recently sold my old 24J DL (22M/410) in very average to below condition (in my opinion). The stock had been refinished and not bad but certainly not right either (good wood but runs in the varnish or lacquer), about 75% bluing with some light freckling of rust from not keeping enough oil on it, some thinning on the receiver from cleaning, great mechanically. I sold it for $275.
2 weeks later I stood and watched a plain 24 (22/410, no checkering on the stocks), with the receiver and barrels stripped of all bluing and polished up very well, and a nicely refinished (cleaned of all old stuff and oiled well) stock; sell for $600. And no, it was not chromed or nickle. I do know the difference.
The point here is that what we know about one or what someone will pay for one should never be taken as anything but an individual occurrence. It may not be any kind of true indication of market value for the identical item.
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Post by savagecombo on Jan 18, 2013 13:41:59 GMT -5
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Post by cas on Jan 20, 2013 13:21:00 GMT -5
Electroless nickel plating seemed like a very short lived trend in gun finishes in the 70's, I remember High Standard selling some of their pistols the same way. Maybe it wasn't traditional looking enough for the time because it didn't really catch on.
Of course you can still have it done but as custom work, but as a factory option it always seems relegated to "marine" versions of shotguns.
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Post by odell23 on Jan 22, 2013 14:00:02 GMT -5
The reason you find very little to no information on the Models 24VS and 24CS (or 24V Survival and 24C Survival) is that they only appeared for 1 year in 1983. This was followed by a huge turmoil in the Savage company and a change of ownership which resulted in the Model 24 Survival guns ceasing to be produced. There was only one leaflet of Savage advertising that I have found that even mentions them.
The 24CS was simply a Model 24C Series S in .22lr/20ga that received the nickel finish upgrade and came with the dark oil rubbed finished stock and pistol grip.
The 24VS was a Model 24V Series D in both .357mag or .357max/ 20ga with the barrels chopped to 20 inches, nickel finish, and dark oil rubbed finished stock and pistol grip.
I don't have a tally of numbers produced, but it was LOW. And the 24CS appears far less in the used market than the 24VS. While people have a greater preference and affinity to the VS because of the novel calibers, the CS is probably one of the rarest in the entire 24 line of combo guns. Either way, these are definitely the crown jewels of any 24 collection.
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Post by savagecombo on Jan 22, 2013 18:30:53 GMT -5
odell23,
So what you are saying is.... the Savage 24 VS does not appear in "any" Savage catalog, not even the 1983 catalog? Is that correct?
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Post by odell23 on Jan 23, 2013 9:35:04 GMT -5
The Savage Model 24VS and 24CS do appear in the 1983 catalog only, but there was only 1 other piece of Savage advertising (a tri-fold leaflet) that metions them. Sorry for the confusion.
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