325wsm
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Post by 325wsm on Jan 25, 2015 16:01:39 GMT -5
Garry what were the "Predators", the camo stocked ones? Same thing, not V or F? (A favorite store had one forever in 223/12(?) and I handled it a couple times, but at the time I had no interest. I can't even remember if it was painted wood, or molded plastic.) Cas, Far as I know, and I'm not 100% sure cause I never followed the 24F's, but here's what I do know. When Savage went to the 24F, I was pretty much done interest wise, I didn't like the tupperware stocks and the guns were much heavier and bulkier than the 24 and 24V. I don't believe there were any wood stocks painted in the camo finish, but it could be possible on the early 24F's I guess. Additionally, with a scope on a 24F the comb on the stock was so low you experienced jaw weld to the stock instead of cheek weld, but I am digressing. As far as I know, the last 24/24V's were produced in 1988 as Savage declared insolvency and went into Chapter 11 trying to reorganize and stay solvent. In 1989 they were only producing the 110 bolt action rifle as they paid off creditors and worked their way out of it. In 1990, they started producing the 24 again, and it was called the 24F. So as far as I know, 1990 was officially the first year of the 24F. There were 2 versions of it in 1990, one with a black tupperware stock called the 24F and one with the camo tupperware stock called the 24F-12T turkey. You can see them in the 1990 catalog I have on the main board in the catalog section. So sometime after that, they probably renamed it the Predator but it was definitely a 24F and not a 24V. The camo tupperware stock didn't seem to last long, they suddenly went to the all black stock/forend, but as I said, once they went to the 24F I no longer had any interest and didn't follow it anymore. Even my gun in the pics above, while it is really a 24V according to Savage records(hell, look at the box), the cold hard reality of it is, it's a 24F that they called a 24V as they were making changes and transitioning over. That gun has the exact same bulky/ heavy feeling as the 24F's with the tupperware stocks. Same scroll work, same cross bolt safety and same poorly finished dull satin blueing. According to the old timer I spoke with(via a 3 way conversation) at the Savage plant, he said very few 24V's in 12 gauge were made, it was right near the end as they went into Chapter 11. The reason I called was because Savage never mentioned what style choke tubes interchanged with that 12 gauge barrel, and it only came with one choke, modified I believe. I was lucky to get the additional information that I did get. Thats all I know. Haven't seen another one like it, or heard of anyone else having one till this thread came up. Cas, always a pleasure to see you and converse with you. Garry
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325wsm
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Post by 325wsm on Jan 26, 2015 15:52:13 GMT -5
Cas, Far as I know, and I'm not 100% sure cause I never followed the 24F's, but here's what I do know. When Savage went to the 24F, I was pretty much done interest wise, I didn't like the tupperware stocks and the guns were much heavier and bulkier than the 24 and 24V. I don't believe there were any wood stocks painted in the camo finish, but it could be possible on the early 24F's I guess. Additionally, with a scope on a 24F the comb on the stock was so low you experienced jaw weld to the stock instead of cheek weld, but I am digressing. As far as I know, the last 24/24V's were produced in 1988 as Savage declared insolvency and went into Chapter 11 trying to reorganize and stay solvent. In 1989 they were only producing the 110 bolt action rifle as they paid off creditors and worked their way out of it. In 1990, they started producing the 24 again, and it was called the 24F. So as far as I know, 1990 was officially the first year of the 24F. There were 2 versions of it in 1990, one with a black tupperware stock called the 24F and one with the camo tupperware stock called the 24F-12T turkey. You can see them in the 1990 catalog I have on the main board in the catalog section. So sometime after that, they probably renamed it the Predator but it was definitely a 24F and not a 24V. The camo tupperware stock didn't seem to last long, they suddenly went to the all black stock/forend, but as I said, once they went to the 24F I no longer had any interest and didn't follow it anymore. Even my gun in the pics above, while it is really a 24V according to Savage records(hell, look at the box), the cold hard reality of it is, it's a 24F that they called a 24V as they were making changes and transitioning over. That gun has the exact same bulky/ heavy feeling as the 24F's with the tupperware stocks. Same scroll work, same cross bolt safety and same poorly finished dull satin blueing. According to the old timer I spoke with(via a 3 way conversation) at the Savage plant, he said very few 24V's in 12 gauge were made, it was right near the end as they went into Chapter 11. The reason I called was because Savage never mentioned what style choke tubes interchanged with that 12 gauge barrel, and it only came with one choke, modified I believe. I was lucky to get the additional information that I did get. Thats all I know. Haven't seen another one like it, or heard of anyone else having one till this thread came up. Cas, always a pleasure to see you and converse with you. Garry
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Post by 325wsm on Jan 26, 2015 15:57:22 GMT -5
Cas, Far as I know, and I'm not 100% sure cause I never followed the 24F's, but here's what I do know. When Savage went to the 24F, I was pretty much done interest wise, I didn't like the tupperware stocks and the guns were much heavier and bulkier than the 24 and 24V. I don't believe there were any wood stocks painted in the camo finish, but it could be possible on the early 24F's I guess. Additionally, with a scope on a 24F the comb on the stock was so low you experienced jaw weld to the stock instead of cheek weld, but I am digressing. As far as I know, the last 24/24V's were produced in 1988 as Savage declared insolvency and went into Chapter 11 trying to reorganize and stay solvent. In 1989 they were only producing the 110 bolt action rifle as they paid off creditors and worked their way out of it. In 1990, they started producing the 24 again, and it was called the 24F. So as far as I know, 1990 was officially the first year of the 24F. There were 2 versions of it in 1990, one with a black tupperware stock called the 24F and one with the camo tupperware stock called the 24F-12T turkey. You can see them in the 1990 catalog I have on the main board in the catalog section. So sometime after that, they probably renamed it the Predator but it was definitely a 24F and not a 24V. The camo tupperware stock didn't seem to last long, they suddenly went to the all black stock/forend, but as I said, once they went to the 24F I no longer had any interest and didn't follow it anymore. Even my gun in the pics above, while it is really a 24V according to Savage records(hell, look at the box), the cold hard reality of it is, it's a 24F that they called a 24V as they were making changes and transitioning over. That gun has the exact same bulky/ heavy feeling as the 24F's with the tupperware stocks. Same scroll work, same cross bolt safety and same poorly finished dull satin blueing. According to the old timer I spoke with(via a 3 way conversation) at the Savage plant, he said very few 24V's in 12 gauge were made, it was right near the end as they went into Chapter 11. The reason I called was because Savage never mentioned what style choke tubes interchanged with that 12 gauge barrel, and it only came with one choke, modified I believe. I was lucky to get the additional information that I did get. Thats all I know. Haven't seen another one like it, or heard of anyone else having one till this thread came up. Cas, always a pleasure to see you and converse with you. Garry
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Post by savageguy on Jan 31, 2015 21:39:51 GMT -5
I own and bought a 24f in late 1988. It was called 24f-12t for turkey. It is .223/12g ex full choke with camo rynite furniture. I never heard them called predator until years later. The rifle barrel is labeled model 24f.I ordered this gun in late 1988 from the catalog so they were still making them then.By the way she is bulky but one of my favorites even though savage quality was rock bottom at that time.
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Post by billy on Mar 27, 2022 16:27:31 GMT -5
I have a 24v 222/20 Turkey or right, fox on left. No cross back safety. Has checkered stock, dull bluing, barrels not welded. Serial number 6166. I have had it forever seems like. Have shot both barrels just to make sure it was functional, but otherwise, sits in my gun safe. I have yet to figure out if it is a 24v/f or predator, varmit, etc. Crap, Savage has made this extremely difficult to know what exactly one owns....
Lost on this for model and/or value today.
Billy
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Post by cas on Mar 31, 2022 12:48:40 GMT -5
"24V" would be 24v lol.
The ballpark way is to go to the gallery, look at the catalogs and at least figure out what era it was made.
I just realized I don't even know if the gallery is working anymore. Due to server changes and the like, I currently don't have access to any of the old website.
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