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Post by mart on Jun 3, 2017 16:40:06 GMT -5
I recently picked up a 24V 222/20 gauge and made my first trip to the range a couple of weeks ago. I fired a couple of shots to get on paper with my standard load of 20.5 grains of IMR4198 under a 50 grain bullet. I thought the lever was acting a little stiff from the start but after the third shot it refused to open. I used that same load for years in a previous 24V with no trouble so know there's no issue with the load.
I had the stock off and the lever does not seem to actuate the locking bolt yoke assembly, i.e. not moving it rearward to unlock the action to open the gun. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. I am a pretty fair hand at firearms repair but haven't been inside a 24 yet. I wanted to know if there are any secrets to disassembly, particlarly on a gun which the barrels are not removed from the receiver. Is there anything I need to be aware of prior to diving into this or should I just box it up and send it to Savage? There are no live rounds in it.
Thanks guys in advance for any assistance.
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Post by bigkelly on Jun 4, 2017 6:00:50 GMT -5
Don't send it to Savage!!!
All the internals for a 24V are available at numrich or ebay---I'd say disassemble and inspect for worn/broken parts 24's aren't really complicated---if you're shaky on smithing--take a couple of good close up pics 1st
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Post by mart on Jun 4, 2017 18:35:30 GMT -5
I've been into a few doubles, including the complicated Parkers so have no doubt I can get it apart and together. I'm just wanting to know if there are any pit falls or issues I should be aware of before I delve into it. I once took my Winchester 401 Self Loader apart. All the way. And found out after the fact and before I got it reassembled, one doesn't take it that far apart. According to the take down instructions I should have stopped at one point, a point I went past. I got it back together without breaking anything but may have used a golf word or two in the process.
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Post by painter on Jun 5, 2017 5:18:33 GMT -5
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Post by neilrr on Jun 5, 2017 7:33:50 GMT -5
mart...welcome to the forum. I have several 24's including a 24V, in .222 Rem/20ga. The instructions referenced by painter were written for an earlier model 24 (thanks painter for the nice words concerning the guide), but can be used on the 24V. Many of the components in the various 24's are the same and the write-up can be applied. If you need any additional help, just post your question and I will try to help you.
The issue you have experienced is usually due to a loose top snap screw which has allowed the top snap to disengage from the locking block assembly. If you still are having problems opening the gun then you need to do the following: remove the fore-end by pulling the front portion of the fore-end downward away from the barrels, remove the butt plate and stock, and using a hook pull the locking block rearwards. This will unlock the barrels for removal from the receiver. Once this is accomplished you can proceed to dismantle the gun for a detailed inspection, cleaning, and lubrication of the various components prior to reassembly. Good luck.
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Post by James In Germany on Jun 5, 2017 11:59:26 GMT -5
I have the exact same issue with my .223/20G, mart. A couple of trips to the range after buying it the snap lever stuck a little. Last week we were at the range and it stopped opening.
Yesterday I took the butt stock off and just like neil said, the snap screw was loose. It looks like its been loose for awhile, finally enough that the top snap sleeve quit pulling the locking bolt assy. There's some wear, particularly on the sleeve, which I'll replace along with the lever and top snap plunger.
Once I got the buttstock off I could easily pull back the locking bolt and open it up.
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Post by neilrr on Jun 5, 2017 17:31:29 GMT -5
mart and James - one additional item, when you reassemble the 24V I would (and have on my own 24V) put a couple of drops of the semi-permanent "blue" (not the permanent "red") LockTite on the top snap screw threads to help keep the screw from loosening up in the future.
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Post by mart on Jun 5, 2017 18:03:48 GMT -5
Thanks guys. That is awesome help and just what I need. I'm at work on the north sloe of Alaska at a remote oilfield. I'll be home later this week and will get into the 24. Thanks again.
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Post by mart on Jun 20, 2017 0:10:10 GMT -5
A quick update on my 24V. It turned out to be the locking bolt plunger was hanging up on the back of the receiver and not sliding back into the hole in the back of the receiver. I got it lined up and it seems to be working fine.
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Post by mart on Jul 21, 2017 13:16:25 GMT -5
Well I thought it was fine. Took it to the range and on the third shot, just like last time it locked up again. I opened and closed the gun a couple dozen times after I fixed it and it never failed. This is a puzzlement to be sure. I'm away at work for three weeks but will look at again when I get back home.
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Post by captcapsize on Jul 22, 2017 17:28:06 GMT -5
My 24V .223/20 locked up the one and only time I fired a nato 5.56 through it. I was at the range and had few resources so I removed the forearm and whacked the corner of the shooting bench right at the hinge. It popped open and never happened again.
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