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Post by wecole on Feb 10, 2019 7:58:48 GMT -5
Has anyone on the forum had the chamber of a .222 Remington barrel on their Savage 24 reamed out to .223 Remington, or 5.56mm NATO or .223 Wylde? I realize that with the slow twist rate you would still have to stick to lighter bullets, but it could still be a way to get a lot more energy and range. Thoughts?
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Post by vancmike on Feb 11, 2019 14:06:37 GMT -5
Has anyone on the forum had the chamber of a .222 Remington barrel on their Savage 24 reamed out to .223 Remington, or 5.56mm NATO or .223 Wylde? I realize that with the slow twist rate you would still have to stick to lighter bullets, but it could still be a way to get a lot more energy and range. Thoughts? A lot more energy and range? I dunno. I thought about it, but, for example, factory 55 gr .223 is about 145 fps faster than the .222 or less than 5%. Not enough of a difference, in my opinion. The triple deuce enjoys an unenviable accuracy reputation and my 24V is no exception, even with open sights and my tired old eyes. Yeah, there is a huge difference in retail prices, and there certainly are lots more .223 ammo choices. If we were talking about a semi-auto or any other repeater, it might make economic sense. But Mdl 24s are single shots. How many times will you pull the trigger in a year? I bought a set of Lee dies, some brass and have yet to deplete my inventory of 35-50 gr. bullets (which I also use for my 22 Hornet and .223 varmint rifles). And I can make up most of the velocity difference, if I choose. And, for some reason(and here we get into the really subjective!), the triple two is just such an elegant little cartridge! |
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Post by wecole on Feb 11, 2019 20:16:11 GMT -5
Good points. I compared the ballistics from a Hornady 50grain .222 V-Max with a 55grain .223 V-Max, and you are correct. There isn't much difference. 50 grain .22255 grain .223 |
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Post by 260remguy on Feb 12, 2019 21:09:56 GMT -5
Check out Marshall Stanton's article on the Savage 24s in the TECH NOTES section at www.beartoothbullets.comMarshall rechambered a 24V from 222 to 223AI. I hope that your Savage 24 shoots better groups than any of mine have. |
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Post by wecole on Feb 13, 2019 23:20:32 GMT -5
That was a great article, thanks!
Stanton really like to re-chamber his 24's. I've been toying with the idea of rechambering my 30-30 barrel to 30-30 AI.
He also made a great point about the 20 gauge guns being lighter. I love my 12/30-30, but it is awfully heavy.
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Post by vancmike on Feb 25, 2019 16:50:49 GMT -5
He is/was a prolific writer, eh? (even if he doesn't know the difference between "its/it's). And I'm not sure about that bit of routinely popping pheasant at 50 yards with his 20 gauge or 300 yd. bunnies...no matter how improved his .223.😳
I'm feeling cynical today...
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Post by cw on May 21, 2019 20:05:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't do it. The 222 can really do 90%+ what the 223 can. Unless you NEED. Heavy bullets.
BTW, the 223 Wylde is a CHAMBER, NOT A caliber.
CW.
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Post by cas on Jun 9, 2019 21:32:51 GMT -5
IUnless you NEED. Heavy bullets. Which the old .222 twist rate won't stabilize well at all. If you'e going to handload light bullet 223's, you might as well load 222's. (one of my favorite cartridges) |
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Post by vancmike on Jun 10, 2019 11:31:37 GMT -5
IUnless you NEED. Heavy bullets. Which the old .222 twist rate won't stabilize well at all. If you're going to handload light bullet 223's, you might as well load 222's. (one of my favorite cartridges) Absolutely. Regardless of chamber, you still have a 1-14" twist. The classic .222 load has a 50/52 grain bullet. I've loaded 55 gr. bullets simply because I have so many them, but that's my limit. |
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Post by vancmike on Jul 8, 2019 11:12:53 GMT -5
One other thought: this winter I was prowling through my inventory and discovered a box of bullets designed for the 22 Hornet. Kind of jacketed, round nose, 45 gr. "Hmmm," I thought, "wonder how these would shoot in .222?"
Pretty good, it turns out. Not quite as accurate as the 50 gr. spitzer bullets designed for the .222, but very nice: 1.5" group at 100 yds, instead of the .75 groups for the spitzer*.
The .222 Rem may be more versatile than expected.
*edit: I should point out those groups are from a vintage Rem. 722 bolt-action with a 3x9 Leupold scope, not my Sav. 24
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Post by rascal01 on Nov 28, 2019 12:39:54 GMT -5
Has anyone on the forum had the chamber of a .222 Remington barrel on their Savage 24 reamed out to .223 Remington, or 5.56mm NATO or .223 Wylde? I realize that with the slow twist rate you would still have to stick to lighter bullets, but it could still be a way to get a lot more energy and range. Thoughts? This reminds me that it is good to have a sense of humor... So I’m a long time Savage 24 lover, going all the way back to being a boy. Now in my 70s, I still enjoy them. And, yes, I own a few. My ideal 24 would be a .223 over 12 gauge, and I have wanted one for decades. Somehow I never got around to making it happen. The best I could do, now more than 10 years ago, was a 24F Turkey in .222 Remington. It is a delightful gun, though not quite what I wanted. I really thought about rechambering to .223. Two things brought that to a halt. It took only three shots to zero and I found the .222 to be a delightful cartridge. I chose not to mess with it. The rifle bore is, of course, 1 in 14 twist. Not the best for 55 grain bullets and G.I. type ammo. I chose to wait for the day when a .223 Savage 24 would come my way. Got lucky a few day ago and found a .223/20 24F. Supposedly won in a raffle by someone who didn’t want it. It may be unfired except for factory testing or proofing. There are a couple of minor handling marks but, all in all, it cleaned up like new. Then I discovered it too has a 1 in 14 twist. Then I got deeper into the .223/5.56 chamber debate. At this point I just have to laugh at the best laid plans of mice and men going astray. I never heard of a .223 with a 1 in 14 twist. In my day, before the long and heavier bullets, 1 turn in 12 was the norm. The 1/12 came about years ago when 1/14 was found to be inadequate for .223 with 55 grain bullets. I shoulda done my homework. Honestly, I’m laughing at myself. And the good news is just how bad can having another Savage 24 be? |
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Post by wecole on Dec 15, 2019 20:24:07 GMT -5
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Post by 24combo on Dec 16, 2019 18:04:33 GMT -5
Rascal01 I feel your pain because I did the same thing. Bought the .223/20ga. and then learned of the slow twist rate.
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Post by rascal01 on Dec 16, 2019 23:25:10 GMT -5
Not the worst thing that ever happened to me but it did sting a bit. I had hoped to use 55 grain G.I. style bullets. I’ll test ‘em and see how they work out. One thing for sure, anything heavier is out of the question.
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Post by rascal01 on Dec 16, 2019 23:54:43 GMT -5
Thank you. I appreciate the heads up. |
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