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Post by monobill on Oct 26, 2013 18:11:53 GMT -5
Hey guys, great board on the Savage 24. Had one since my father bought it for me back 50+ years ago. Was my first hunting gun and now want to again use it for rabbit hunting just for old time sake.
Here is the problem, hammer would not cock, so I disassembled and found the mainsping plunger head was off the shaft. OK, disassembled and refit the shaft back into the standoff. Thought it would be good idea to straighten the bent shaft,,,,,,,,,,,,,, not, then the hammer would not cock. So figured there needs to be a slight bend so it will cock and fire fine. So was thinking great I fixed it.
Only to learn that if it is at half cock and you pull trigger it will let the hammer drop. Not good as the 410 barrel will fire and 22 barrel makes a mark in the cartridge but not fire. I am feeling that at half cock and the trigger pulled it should not move the hammer.
I do not want to carry the gun loaded with hammer sitting on the pins so how do I or can I adjust so when at half cock and pull the trigger it doesn’t fire? Or is that even possible?
Any help?
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Post by glocknutt on Oct 27, 2013 7:15:41 GMT -5
hmmm, assembled with bend up or down; look at the drawing from numrich arms or gunpartscorp.com to get as close as you can.
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Post by monobill on Oct 27, 2013 12:28:21 GMT -5
I pretty sure I have it assembled with bend and standoff placed correctly. When it is wrong it will not work at all. Main question is for someone to confirm if you have your Model 24 at half cock and pull the trigger will the hammer fall?
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Oct 27, 2013 14:03:39 GMT -5
No, mine both return to half cock under spring pressure, even with the trigger pulled.
However, I do have a Savage Mdl 94 12ga (which I am led to believe is mechanically very similar to the model 24) that behaves as you describe. It's one of the newer ones with the break button in front of the trigger guard. But I do not know if it is broken, or was designed that way and they changed something with the ones that break in front of the trigger guard. All of my model 24s are tang break.
Looking at the parts diagram, I can't see how the hammer could be falling from half cock with the trigger pulled unless that thingy on the end of the mainspring plunger is way off kilter. But I am no gunsmith, so I dunno........
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Post by glocknutt on Oct 28, 2013 6:54:06 GMT -5
mine half cocks from return spring pressure,however if I push the hammer forward with my thumb as I pull the trigger I can PUSH it forward to the end point, but springs right back to half position,works like a charm.
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Post by monobill on Oct 28, 2013 10:20:35 GMT -5
So if I understand, you are at full cock, pull the triger and gun will fire, and the hammer returns on its own to half cock? If that is the case I think I should be able to get it adjusted.
I am just trying to understand how it should work. Any one have orginal manual that describes this action and how it works? How did they recomend you carry the gun when hunting?
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Post by rj on Oct 28, 2013 11:46:42 GMT -5
The hammer on the old 24 is a rebounding style.
What that means is that at rest ,not cocked, the hammer will be forced away from the firing pins/selector by the mainspring pushing on the bottom of the hammer.
This is it's "at rest" position.
When you cock the hammer, the top of the mainspring plunger presses against the hammer above the pivot pin.
Pulling the trigger releases the hammer to pivot forward.
BUT, when the hammer approaches the firing pin/selector, the lower portion of the plunger exerts pressure to return the hammer to a rest position.
Since the hammer in motion contains a lot of kinetic energy, it hits the firing pin and loses that energy.
The lower lump of the mainspring plunger, now contacting the lower notch in the hammer, pushes the hammer back from the firing pin.
Releasing the trigger blocks the hammer from moving forward.
There is a balancing act going on.
The top of the mainspring plunger provides the push to fire the weapon, but the lower part provides the push to keep the hammer back off the firing pin.
The balance is effected by bending the big end of the mainspring plunger.
I hope this is clear.
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Post by monobill on Oct 28, 2013 20:57:41 GMT -5
jr, that is great explanation and completly clear, thanks. I will adjust now that I understand how it should work.
Thanks for the help!
Monobill
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Post by TexasBAD on Oct 28, 2013 21:47:53 GMT -5
Monobill, that is one nice buck in profile pic!
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