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Post by scott on Jan 31, 2014 12:36:49 GMT -5
Hi all, Hopefully one of the more experienced members here can answer this (I'll put the question first and the story second so I don't bore everybody  ) for the square extractor models of the 24V, does anybody know if there is more than one square extractor, or are all the square ones interchangeable (for the same caliber I mean)? I am down to just this one part to get my 24V shooting. My rifle takes the square style extractor for .222/20ga. When I made my numrich order, they didn't list one in stock for the 24V but did for another model. When I called to ask them about compatibility (this was before I realized that they aren't the most accurate source of information) they told me that they "only had the square style extractor in stock". Well, since that's what I needed I happily ordered one. The extractor I received is the right size and shape, but doesn't have grooves for the case rims, and the pin is misaligned by just enough that the extractor won't seat into the pocket in the breech block (maybe .005" offset). I'm trying to determine if this extractor is a) correct for my rifle but just poorly made and defective or b) if there are more than one of the square style extractor and this is for a different model. Thanks |
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Post by txbob on Jan 31, 2014 21:34:08 GMT -5
scott can you post a picture of the extractor showing 3 or 4 different views and maybe
I can tell if it matches my 24V .222/20ga.
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Post by scott on Feb 1, 2014 10:52:06 GMT -5
Give me a few minutes.
Numrich said defect wasn't out of the question and encouraged me to return it, but I still need to take fitment photos for them anyway. I'll post something in just a little while showing the issue.
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Post by scott on Feb 1, 2014 11:50:37 GMT -5
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Post by txbob on Feb 1, 2014 13:31:42 GMT -5
Scott,My extractor is is rounded instead of square. I would say from looking at the pictures that you are correct it is a blank to be fitted. Mine overhangs the outside of the barrel .025. Your biggest challenge would be matching the rim seat on the shot barrel.The small pin is the rife extractor and mine is spring loaded,if yours is, that would not be a big deal. Also my extractor is spring loaded and when fully depressed into the breech is .010 deeper than the cut for it allowing a little tolerance thus the spring load. If it is not a defect and you cannot find a better fitting extractor it is a good start. Hope this was of some help,let us know what you find out.
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Post by scott on Feb 1, 2014 15:04:12 GMT -5
Thanks tx.
When you say yours overhangs the outside of the barrel .025, do you mean the extractor extends past the outside edge of the breech block on the left side)? That is the area which made me think it might not be machined properly. Rather than overhanging, it is inset slightly.
The fitting and machining I can handle. I just want to make sure I'm not starting with something that's already out of tolerance. If yours sticks out the side rather than being recessed then I'll probably send it back to Numrich and ask them to check it out against their other stock before I go to town on it.
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Post by txbob on Feb 1, 2014 17:48:17 GMT -5
When you say yours overhangs the outside of the barrel .025, do you mean the extractor extends past the outside edge of the breech block on the left side)?
Scott that's correct,but that is a nonfunctional area,In my opinion its cosmetics only,I would have thought it would have been flush with the breech block,but it works
good does not look that bad. I don't know what Savages philosophy was on tolerance in
non critical areas,but it looks like it was real good in critical areas. Of course this is the first one that I have checked out in any detail and done any work on.
Good Luck.
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Post by scott on Feb 1, 2014 18:31:26 GMT -5
Thanks again. My only functional concern is with the interface between the extractor lever and the extractor itself. I'd prefer a little more contact between the two. Other than that it's just that I'm kind of a stickler for details.
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Post by scott on Feb 21, 2014 10:00:24 GMT -5
Grumble grumble... gotta love Numrich.
So a few weeks ago when I was having trouble with this I called them and described the problem. Their response was to suggest that I send it back for evaluation so their techs could determine whether or not it was dimensionally correct. OK, no problem. Their exchange request is a little cumbersome, but I sent the extractor back with the required copy of the invoice, exchange slip, letter of explanation of the issue, and several labelled photos detailing the issue and that I could complete the machining if necessary, but that they'd requested to see it based on my questions. Two weeks later, with no response, I called and they had no record of the shipment and didn't know what to tell me other than wait for their phone call or try again in a week or so. So I called back this morning and the lady I spoke to said it had been processed as a return on the 13th (the day before my first call if Im not mistaken). And as far as she could tell they hadn't bothered to check to see if it was within tolerance, needed final machining etc....
For obvious reasons I want to avoid the hassle of re-ordering from these guys (especially since additional digging on my part revealed that it was indeed around .025-.030 short on the outside dimension, reducing contact with the extractor lever). Does anybody either know an alternate supplier or have a spare .222/20 ga extractor (I think that I can even make a round style extractor work. They look bigger)?
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