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Post by Andreas Sweden on Apr 1, 2014 8:33:10 GMT -5
Hi I have the 24 of later model with compsite stock 12/30-30 i find i a little bit heavy, I read that the 20 gauge is bould on a smaller frame is that correct and there for a bit lighter?
I ve seen one with 20/30-30 setup with the same stock..
BR
Andreas
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Post by jeffb1911 on Apr 2, 2014 18:58:25 GMT -5
The 24F model is what you are referring too. In order to make it work with a 12 GA size barrel, the frame had to be beefed up, and the "smart" people at the top of the decision making ladder THOUGHT that they could just use the same action. Problem was, that added about 2 or more pounds to the design and the cost. You are right that the 20 GA guns are usually lighter. If it has a hammer block safety, it is going to most likely be a 24F, and therefore heavy. My 24 in 30-30/20 is much lighter than the 12GA's i've had over the years.
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Apr 3, 2014 22:52:26 GMT -5
The 12s are awfully heavy compared the the 20s... I picked one up at a gun show and thought "No way!" Hehe.
If you want a 12 + (.223, .308, or .30-06) that won't break your back lugging around all day, try a Baikal MP94. I have one in 12 over 7.62x39 (sadly no longer imported) that is lighter than my 24V .30-30/20ga (though admittedly the 24V wears a scope, so that adds a tiny bit). The Baikal has the shotgun barrel on top, though, which I am not really so hot on. It feels like a shotgun with a rifle barrel tacked on, rather than a rifle with a shotgun barrel tacked on, if you know what I mean.
The finish it pretty rough on the Baikal, too, and it breaks really hard. And the sight radius is too close. I think the pre-24F Model 24 is a far better gun, but if you are dead set on a 12ga..... I dunno...
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Post by dale on Apr 4, 2014 17:42:00 GMT -5
I did the same thing, got a 12/.30-30 and said "whoa, too heavy"; sold it and found a 20/.30-30 to replace it. Arbitrarily, *feels* lighter, shoulders well (and the kick is much more pleasant, go figure).
I agree with leaf, too; I got to handle a Baikal at LLBean recently, and did not find it nearly as pretty or balanced.
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