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Post by Paladin on Mar 9, 2015 19:38:31 GMT -5
Hello.
Just picked up a Savage 24 DL .22LR/20Ga.
Don't know very much about this model, but I'm going to learn.
Once I got this home I discovered that the selector switch (on the right side) does not do anything.
Apparently, someone put a Hammer with a selector on this gun instead of fixing the (new style?) side selector.
Does anyone have any info on fixing this (selector)?
Is it possible to buy the correct Hammer? Where, and from whom?
I'd like to fully disassemble this gun.
Which way should the pins (the two that go compleatly through the receiver, just forward of the stock) be driven out?
Is there a good disassembly guide somewhere (yes, I did search)?
And finally, where is the serial number to be found on this particular model?
Sorry for all of the novice questions, but I am anxious to get up to speed with this piece.
Thanks for your patience.
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Post by littleguns on Mar 10, 2015 18:27:48 GMT -5
Disassembling these guns is fairly easy; getting the mainspring back into position can be a nightmare, so proceed with caution. The hammer selector is the new style; the slide selector was on the original guns, beginning in 1939. Numrich (e-gunparts.com) sometimes has the side-selector parts and hammer you'll need, but to put them in does require disassembly. (I say "sometimes has" because Numrich is fond of the phrase "out of stock.") I haven't found a good assembly guide. The shotgun edition of J.B. Wood's "Firearms Assembly/Disassembly" is helpful but not perfect. That guide says the pins should be drifted out toward the right. But, again, proceed with caution: Wood says, in referring to replacing the hammer spring assembly, "There is no really easy way to do it." Good luck with your project.
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Post by neilrr on Mar 11, 2015 7:30:22 GMT -5
Welcome. as littleguns stated disassembling the 24 is not very difficult if you follow the following link: savage24forum.boards.net/thread/360/basic-disassemble-reassemble-savage-model One major problem area is removing and reinstalling the main spring, you need three hands. I previously posted step by step instructions on how to do this in a simple fashion, see the link below: savage24forum.boards.net/thread/591/disassemble-reassemble-main-spring-older 24s You can usually find parts at Numrich Gun Parts. If they are out of stock then try "Out Back Gun Parts, Inc" located in New Albany, IN, phone number: 812-945-0480, website: www.outbackgunparts.com, or email: outbackgunpartsws@sbcglobal.net. If you try Out Back you will need to send him a picture of the part(s) from the gun's schematic including part number, and all of the specifics about your gun. He is not the cheapest place to get parts, but usually has the right parts. Good luck. If you need any help just ask. |
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Post by neilrr on Mar 11, 2015 7:41:28 GMT -5
One other thing, if you want to spend about $35 you can get a DVD from American Gunsmithing Institute/Gun Club of America that gives a very good detailed video explanation on how to take apart a Savage 24. I have used this DVD and found that the video directions were very good. The disassembly - reassembly course instructions for a Savage 24 can be found in AGI's/GCA's #50 Guntech Magazine DVD.
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Post by neilrr on Mar 11, 2015 7:47:09 GMT -5
As to which direction to drive out any receiver through pins; it is usually left to right to drive them out and right to left to install. However, first verify that one end of the pin is not larger than the other. If one end of the pin is larger then you drive out the pin from the smaller end with the larger end coming out first and reinstall the smaller end first.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 12, 2015 19:37:28 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the great advice guys.
neilrr, do you have a link to that DVD?
I searched both the "American Gunsmithing Institute" and "Gun Club of America" websites and did not find it.
I've already spent a few happy hours cleaning and inspecting my "24".
A friend of mine is a Savage Mod 99 collector. He promised to teach me the secret handshake now that I finally own a vintage Savage! :-)
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Post by neilrr on Mar 13, 2015 7:08:24 GMT -5
The phone number for the Gun Club of America is 800-435-4262. They are located in California. There are 100+ Guntech DVD's that include an assembly-disassembly course for various firearms. In the past as a member I had purchased some of the DVD's for my own personnel reference library. However, recently they have allowed members to access their archived Guntech DVD's for free and you can look at them anytime. I would suggest that you call them.
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Post by odell23 on Mar 13, 2015 10:06:47 GMT -5
Paladin,
Because your gun has the 24E hammer conversion, you'll find that the transfer bar that was attached to the button selector is missing. The transfer bar for .22lr/.410 guns are very easy to find, but the ones for the .22lr/20 are a lot more difficult. Just thought you needed the heads up about the correct part before you started your search and possibly buy the wrong part.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 13, 2015 20:52:02 GMT -5
Thanks again neilrr. I'll probably give GCoA a call when I get a moment.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 13, 2015 20:58:36 GMT -5
odell23, yes, that is just the sort of thing that I need to know and don't even know to ask.
I'm not even clear on how that transfer bar works.
With that system is a part (transfer bar?) moved up and down to align with the firing pins and then the hammer hits the bar?
I am envisioning something like the transfer bar on a "New Model" Ruger Blackhawk.
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Post by neilrr on Mar 16, 2015 11:36:39 GMT -5
paladin, the transfer bar or "selector" moves up or down and its extended top portion (button) will cover the rifle barrel's firing pin or the shotgun barrel's firing pin, but the selector should be fitted so the extended top button does not touch both firing pins at the same time. The selector attaches to a selector button mounted within a slot in the side of the receiver, usually on the right side. There are both new and old style selectors and selector buttons and they must be purchased as a set to match each other along with a button selector spring and plunger, and a selector button screw depending on it you purchase a new or old style selector/selector button combination.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 17, 2015 9:49:14 GMT -5
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Post by gman on Mar 17, 2015 14:33:45 GMT -5
Actually the hammer selector conversion is a model 24 "upgrade" by Savage Arms do to the side selectors failing. Lots of model 24's have had this done, and some might find it preferable. If you put the original side selector back in, make sure you keep all the hammer selector parts, someday you may want or need to go back to that setup.
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Post by Paladin on Mar 18, 2015 9:03:36 GMT -5
Ah, OK, thanks for the advice.
I'll think long and hard before reverting back to the original system.
Last night I stopped at Dunham's and picked up a couple of boxes of 20 Ga.
Then took the gun and ammo to my sportsman's club and banged out a few rounds to test the gun.
I was happy to find that everything works just great.
The only thing that I see, that I really need to address, is the sights.
The rear sight looks original, but the elevation adjustment ramp does not want to stay put.
It keeps sliding to one side or the other.
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