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Post by odell23 on Jan 7, 2013 9:33:40 GMT -5
There were 3 different storage options produced during the entire line of the 24C. I seem to remember that one of them only held on shotgun shell. Like jeffb1911 said, you could ream it out to hold more if you wanted.
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Post by odell23 on Jan 4, 2013 15:03:30 GMT -5
Mike,
I haven't been working on the 24V models in earnst yet, so I don't have a complete view. But here is what I can tell you that might move the bar a little closer for you.
The 24V line appears in the catalogs from 1967 through 1988. It is with surety I can tell you the 24V Series D models show up in 1979. Because serial numbers started in 1968, and I have found no 24V with them, then the 24V was made prior to 1968. The 24V-A has some with and without serial numbers so in started production in 1968. If you have a 24V Series B or Series C model, then it was produced sometime between 1969 and 1978.
Sorry I don't have more for you, but I hope to get there soon.
John
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Post by odell23 on Jan 4, 2013 14:49:07 GMT -5
The 24V/F Transition models were produced during a rough time at Savage. The company changed hands and the new owners reduced the number of different guns produced to only the best sellers. Thankfully the 24 survived, but with the focus set on bettering the quality of the guns and Federal pressure on safety, the 24V was replaced with the 24F. Henceforth an overall heavier gun, cross-bolt safety, machine screw attached forend, synthetic stock and forend, and the addition of 12 gauge into the mix in addition to the 20 gauge.
However there were some 24V parts (mostly frames and wood) still hanging around that needed to be liquidated. So a short run of guns were made to expedite the process. So far I have encountered 3 different versions.
The first is a wood furniture version with a 24V frame with 24F barrels in .30-30/20. It is marked 24V on the left side of the rifle barrel. This has caused some confusion with what people think is on the engraved side plates. Instead of the traditional fox scene on the left and turkey on the right, it still has the fox on the right but the left was now a grouse. It, like the other 24V models produced earlier, lacks a cross-bolt safety, but because of the 24F barrels the forend is attached with a machine screw like all later versions.
The second is wood stocked version with 24F frame and barrels that is marked 24V on the left side of the rifle barrel in .30-30/20. This frame has the cross-bolt safety and the standard scroll engravings found on all 24F frames. Again the wood forend is attached by a machine screw.
The third is a camouflaged synthetic stocked 24F frame and barrels marked 24V on the left side of the rifle barrel in .223/12. Other than the engraving, it looks like every other 24F-12T (12 gauge turkey gun) produced.
As has been said before, you can swap a wood stock for a synthetic one on any 24V Series D model. The forend would require some gunsmith work by removing the the spring tension block and replacing it with a drilled and tapped metal block to use a machine screw on. I think it's easily doable if you really want it.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 18, 2012 12:38:20 GMT -5
So one of the Savage Model 42 combos showed up on the used gun rack of my local Cabelas, so I got my first chance to handle one in the store.
My first impression: The first thing I noticed was the weight. It was nice to pick up something light again like the old Stevens 22-410. While the overall feel and look of the gun was strange, it shouldered well and pointed naturally enough. It seemed a lot thinner than I expected too. The sights are not that appealing and I question their durability long term since they seem to be made out of some type of polymer or plastic. The legally required cross-bolt safety was mushy on the one I examined, so I couldn't definitely tell if the safety was positively on or off. The finger grooved ergo forend was hard to adjust to, but with more time I'm sure I wouldn't notice it.
The verdict: I'm gonna have to buy one for pictures for the book, but I can't say if I'll keep it until after I get a chance to use it chasing some squirrels. Right now it's the only game in town unless you cruise the used market for the older Model 24 varieties. I'll give it a fair chance, but I doubt it'll replace my favorites.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 17, 2012 21:27:49 GMT -5
I'm still here.
Great work getting this up CAS!
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Post by odell23 on Dec 17, 2012 21:20:12 GMT -5
Paul, There is nothing definitive yet, which means I hope to resolve that issue with my book on the 24.
I can tell you the the 24C Series R appears in the 1978 and 1979 catalogs, so to narrow it down a bit you are looking at you gun being produced between 1977 and 1979 roughly.
If that isn't good enough information for your craving, your only alternative is to send a letter to the Savage historian Jon Callahan and wait in line for a response.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 17, 2012 13:58:22 GMT -5
First post on the new board ! Okay, so the "M" designation appears in Savage literature and ephemra only in the early years and models. (e.g. 24 vs. 24M, 24S vs. 24MS, & 24-DL vs. 24-MDL) It was meant to distinguish between .22lr and .22wrm chamberings. Other than the different markings of the actual caliber, none of the guns were marked with the letter "M". It is important to note that the reason Savage did this was because there was different firing pins used on .22lr and .22wrm. The "Series M" designation is found stamped onto the sides of the following frames: 24C Series M, 24D Series M, & 24 Series M (which is the Field Grade model and not the earlier style). Each of these were the first of the series for each of these types of 24. This type of nomenclature was common to Savage as a way to keep track of changes and repair parts to guns if changes were made. Pay close attention to the details here. The 24-DL is known as the De Luxe Model from catalog years 1962-1968. Common features for all varieties include full length brazed barrels, satin chrome reciever (except last year of produced J-DL), gold trigger, Monte Carlo style stock, pressed checkering on the forearm/wrist/pistol grip, rolled engraving of fox and turkey on side pannels. The 24D is known as the Deluxe Model from catalog years 1969-1979. Common features for all varieties include separated barrels with barrel band front sight, painted black reciever, Monte Carlo style stock. The 24D Series S was distinctly different from the other varieties as it was never marked with a "D". It is identical to the 24 Series S (Field Grade) in every way except it 24D has the upgraded stock and forearm of the 24V produced during that same time period. I'm starting to think you guys are trying to get this book out of me one piece at a time!
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