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Post by alanw on Jul 30, 2019 15:03:24 GMT -5
I have a Savage 24J-DL .22LR over .410 that my father gave me about 35 years ago. I used the gun for about 5 years then it went unused until about a week ago. My 16 year old son expressed interest in learning how to shoot so I pulled this gun out and cleaned it up. I have a problem where the .22 casing gets stuck after firing every third or fourth shot, and I have to tap the extractor out and then grab it with a pair of needle nose pliers to pull it out. I frankly don't remember much about firing this gun 30 years ago! I disassembled the extractor, cleaned it, and put it back together. I tried different ammo. I cleaned the area well with a brass bristle brush. Occasionally the casing somewhat splits, but more often it just gets stuck. I attached a picture of a casing. There is an odd bump on the body of the shell. I think this lines up with an open area just past the ejector in the closed position. Which leads me to think this gun might have an extractor that is not long enough? Thanks for any help you can offer
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Post by captcapsize on Jul 30, 2019 16:51:35 GMT -5
I would look very close at the chamber. It looks to me like there is a dimple or pit in the chamber so the brass expands to fill it.
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Post by alanw on Jul 30, 2019 17:30:52 GMT -5
I would look very close at the chamber. It looks to me like there is a dimple or pit in the chamber so the brass expands to fill it. This is where I was talking about the ejector being not quite long enough, leaving a "hole" in the barrel. Wondering if this is normal or not
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Post by santacruzpaul on Jul 30, 2019 20:11:16 GMT -5
I would look very close at the chamber. It looks to me like there is a dimple or pit in the chamber so the brass expands to fill it. This is where I was talking about the ejector being not quite long enough, leaving a "hole" in the barrel. Wondering if this is normal or not Sounds like a chamber buzz may be in order, If all other parts in that area are factory, It should just need a deep cleaning, Once in a while when one of my 24's don't extract, I need to flick the extractor with the same diget I eject with to get it to extract. But this only happens after a hundred plus rounds have been fired. And I shoot clean ammo, (CCI) Paul
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Post by santacruzpaul on Jul 30, 2019 20:14:56 GMT -5
This is where I was talking about the ejector being not quite long enough, leaving a "hole" in the barrel. Wondering if this is normal or not Sounds like a chamber buzz may be in order, If all other parts in that area are factory, It should just need a deep cleaning, Once in a while when one of my 24's don't extract, I need to flick the extractor with the same diget I eject with to get it to extract. But this only happens after a hundred plus rounds have been fired. And I shoot clean ammo, (CCI) Paul Forgot to mention, Check the extractor for burrs and hone with some 2000 grit if needed. Paul
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Post by alanw on Jul 30, 2019 20:44:00 GMT -5
Sounds like a chamber buzz may be in order, If all other parts in that area are factory, It should just need a deep cleaning, Once in a while when one of my 24's don't extract, I need to flick the extractor with the same diget I eject with to get it to extract. But this only happens after a hundred plus rounds have been fired. And I shoot clean ammo, (CCI) Paul Forgot to mention, Check the extractor for burrs and hone with some 2000 grit if needed. Paul Sorry, but what is a chamber buzz?
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Post by santacruzpaul on Jul 30, 2019 21:28:31 GMT -5
Forgot to mention, Check the extractor for burrs and hone with some 2000 grit if needed. Paul Sorry, but what is a chamber buzz? Chamber buzz, Use a 22 caliber brass bore brush (may need a 25 caliber brush), Lubricate well with hoppe's #9 and oil, Use a slow speed cordless drill, Chuck up the bore brush in drill and polish the chamber, IMPORTANT! Watch the depth of the bore brush,You only want to buzz or polish the chamber, NOT! the rifling. I am being conservative with the size of the bore brush, (22 caliber) I normally use a 25 caliber bore brush when doing this to chambers. BUT start with the 22 caliber brush, It may be all you need, For the final polish I use Flitz or Mothers with a 22 or 25 caliber mop. After all this, I do a good cleaning to get rid if all the polishing stuff. Paul
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Post by alanw on Aug 13, 2019 19:13:45 GMT -5
I finally figured out the problem was ammo. When I shot anything but CCI, the problem went away.
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Post by santacruzpaul on Aug 13, 2019 20:42:33 GMT -5
I finally figured out the problem was ammo. When I shot anything but CCI, the problem went away. Is this real real old CCI ammo? Usually CCI is the go to stuff for many. I have never experienced a 24, along with many other 22 rimfires not liking CCI, Please educate me if others have had the same problem as Alanw. I do have a couple rimfires that like other brands of ammo for mynute accuracy, But they eat the CCI just fine. Paul
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Post by alanw on Aug 14, 2019 14:23:01 GMT -5
The ammo was not old. I took the gun to a well respected gunsmith to see if I had a problem with the ejector. He had seen this problem before in a Savage 24 and said "CCI has soft brass". He then proceeded to check the gun with a variety of ammo, and then his own CCI ammo. Only CCI had the problem. I think this problem is unique to certain Savage 24's.
He didn't charge me anything, and thanked me for letting him hold a Savage 24 again after many years.
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Post by bkhart on Aug 21, 2019 17:11:39 GMT -5
Thanks for the post and the solution, always good to find an uncomplicated answer rather quickly. Now, how's it going with your son's first bout with shooting? Hopefully this set back did not dampen his desire for the sport!
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