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Post by Richard on Feb 2, 2014 15:24:49 GMT -5
I have a Savage 24 HDL 22 mag 20 gauge and would like to know if anyone has tried the 22 mag to 22 LR adapters. If so, I would like to know how they work and how well they work. Thanks!!
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Post by cw on Feb 2, 2014 18:54:30 GMT -5
I ordered a set of three last week.. www.mcace.com/adapters.htmI will keep one with my 24DL one with a H&R Versa-pac re-chambered to Maggie and my Lil Badger 22Mag. I should see them in a week or two. CW
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Post by thehunteriam on Feb 2, 2014 18:58:10 GMT -5
I bought some from ACE, they work BUT the .22 magnum bore diameter is wider than the long rifle one, so the long rifle does not engage the rifling too well, so accuracy is so so. Also, after a while the rim on the adapter flattens, and then the primer rims on the long rifles split! You can make them yourself with .22 magnum casings. They are over rated in my book...
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Post by cw on Feb 2, 2014 21:19:01 GMT -5
I bought some from ACE, they work BUT the .22 magnum bore diameter is wider than the long rifle one, so the long rifle does not engage the rifling too well, so accuracy is so so. Also, after a while the rim on the adapter flattens, and then the primer rims on the long rifles split! You can make them yourself with .22 magnum casings. They are over rated in my book... Care to elaborate on making your own?
I carefully ground the head off a mag casing tring... it was too small to fit a LR.
CW
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Post by cw on Feb 2, 2014 21:19:22 GMT -5
I bought some from ACE, they work BUT the .22 magnum bore diameter is wider than the long rifle one, so the long rifle does not engage the rifling too well, so accuracy is so so. Also, after a while the rim on the adapter flattens, and then the primer rims on the long rifles split! You can make them yourself with .22 magnum casings. They are over rated in my book... Care to elaborate on making your own?
I carefully ground the head off a mag casing tring... it was too small to fit a LR.
CW
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Post by captcapsize on Feb 3, 2014 8:40:24 GMT -5
I bought some from ACE, they work BUT the .22 magnum bore diameter is wider than the long rifle one, so the long rifle does not engage the rifling too well, so accuracy is so so. Also, after a while the rim on the adapter flattens, and then the primer rims on the long rifles split! You can make them yourself with .22 magnum casings. They are over rated in my book... Care to elaborate on making your own?
I carefully ground the head off a mag casing tring... it was too small to fit a LR.
CW
I have made sleeves from .22 mag to shoot lr by carefully sawing through the mag case. You have to use the cheaper mag ammo I think it is Winchester Dynapoint. It has a thinner case than the other higher priced ammo. You also have to use the end of the case nearest the bullet. The case is tapered and the rim end is too small internally. It works but is a lot of effort. I just wanted to see if it could be done.
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Post by thehunteriam on Feb 3, 2014 12:50:20 GMT -5
Never tried to make one, but heard alot about making them. Grinding down the head to accept a long rifle cartridge is the way I heard.
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Post by scott on Feb 3, 2014 14:28:06 GMT -5
Not that I've tried it or can give any real assistance from experience, but most decent hobby stores still sell brass tubing in varying sizes in sub .010 increments. If one of those isn't a perfect fit, it would be a simple operation to either draw down or swage up to the exact size to make your own adapter, and pressing a lip onto one end while its annealed would be relatively easy as well.
That being said, I can't say that I'd be all that comfortable using an adapter like that for anything but emergency use. If I were making/buying one, I'd probably opt for stainless or heat hardened tool steel.
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Feb 4, 2014 10:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by captcapsize on Feb 4, 2014 10:58:19 GMT -5
I found after shooting a lr in the mag case the mag case stayed in the chamber and the extractor lifted the lr case so it was easy to remove. The mag case adapter was removed easily with a wire bore brush. Did not test for accuracy but suspect it would do for close range small game getter.
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Mar 18, 2014 23:20:36 GMT -5
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Post by loganboone on Mar 18, 2014 23:20:36 GMT -5
OK guys, this was just too interesting for me not to try. I've always wished that there was some type of .22WMR short, so I tried the above described method and reloaded the brass with a CCI CB short. I wanted to do this as simply as possible, something I could do in the field or in a pinch, so I did not use a caliper a jeweler's files. I used my old Leatherman PST, the brass was from "cheap" Federal ammo and some super glue rounded out my kit. I trimmed the head off of the case, did some needlenose chamfering and inserted the CB round. It fired perfectly, the sleeve stayed in the chamber and short brass extracted. Two more shots went flawlessly. Next I tried a 22LR round, it fired, but the sleeve extracted with the LR brass. So, back to the drawing board, I wanted to be able to shoot CB shorts in a hunting scenario, but didn't want the sleeve to remain in the chamber, so that I could load a regular 22WMR round without having to use a tool to get the sleeve out. I tried a half drop of super glue on the brass of the CB round before inserting it into the sleeve, PERFECT, the sleeve extracts after I shoot with the CB brass. So I made three to add to my hunting load out and a fourth to keep with my 22LR ammo. A couple seconds over a Zippo loosens the super glue, to seperate th CB brass from the sleeve for reuse. 25yd accuracy(which is as far as I would try with a CB short anyway), I was able to hit the bottom of a pop can, off hand. This was all with my Baikal IZH94 22WMR/.410. I'll get some pics up tomorrow of the groups it can shoot and the sleeve stuck in the chamber. Thanks for the info, added a new level of versatility to a favorite gun.
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Post by loganboone on Mar 19, 2014 11:50:30 GMT -5
Further experimentation today proved a few things. The CB short rounds that I glued, did not always extract the sleeve with it, one out of three seperated, leaving the sleeve in the chamber, defeating my purpose. Also, while trying more shots with the sleeve and 22LR rounds, the sleeve remained in if I used CCI Blazers, Bulk Winchester ammo extracted the sleeve. Removing the stuck sleeve is easily done with a bore brush, or if in the field you can access a small portion of the brass under the extractor, bend it up and grab with a Leatherman. Accuracy was still minute of pop can(bottom) with both 22LR and 22short, pretty cool. Playing around with different glue for my 22short hunting loads. The chamber of my IZH94 with sleeve adapter in.
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Mar 19, 2014 14:14:40 GMT -5
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Post by cw on Mar 19, 2014 14:14:40 GMT -5
How about a pic of entire gun? I tried making my own but not same as your doing. Guess I need to try again. CW
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Mar 19, 2014 17:48:44 GMT -5
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Post by loganboone on Mar 19, 2014 17:48:44 GMT -5
Here she is. As far as you not having success, you're prolly being too scientific/exact about it, needs a little more hillbilly flare(I happen to have alot of that). As you can see.
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Post by cw on Mar 19, 2014 18:11:44 GMT -5
Very nice pics Logan.
Thanks, CW
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Post by txbob on Mar 19, 2014 22:30:53 GMT -5
Try LOCTITE® THREADLOCKER RED 271™ NUT AND BOLT LOCKER.We used this in the aircraft tooling shop all the time,can be used on scope screws takes a little heat (hairdryer) and regular hand tools to disassemble.They also have the BLUE 242. Check their web site. If you have a Harbor Freight near you they have Threadlock #42. This will probably work for your project. Let me know if it works.
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