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Post by czvz on Aug 7, 2014 19:31:07 GMT -5
I have wanted one for over 30 years, then yesterday I saw what I thought was a highly coveted 24C series-P .22/20ga. with the short barrel, or Campers Companion. I saw right away that the buttstock was not original, this one had a pistol grip with no trapdoor. I negotiated a price for just under $300.00, and have it on layaway. Since then I have searched for any and all information about this model/series and was horrified to see someone on another forum claim that the 24C-series P's were JUNK! His claim was, that on firing the barrel ring seperating the two would generate enough torque, that the barrel would twist! Is there any truth to this? Is there anything inherently wrong with the 24C series P in .22/20 gauge? Or is this just internet folly? Oh. by the way, Hello! I'm a new member, first post. I like guns!..... guns are my antidrug!
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Post by cas on Aug 8, 2014 1:25:16 GMT -5
That's a bargain and a half at $300 You could get your money back in a couple of minutes on here if you decide you don't want it.
The P series guns aren't junk, they're made just like any of the others. They were just more "utilitarian" grade than many of the other versions.
I have a 24c series P and I have no idea what you're talking about, torque and twisting.
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Post by vancmike on Aug 8, 2014 11:43:03 GMT -5
....on firing the barrel ring seperating the two would generate enough torque, that the barrel would twist....
Some years ago, when I first started reading firearms forums, I thought it would be interesting to keep track of those posts with crazy, inaccurate nut-so 'information' purported to be as gospel. Wasn't long before I realized that it was an impossible task....there are just to many wacko pretenders out there....(respect mah authority!!!).
You didn't identify the forum, but I'd view that particular poster as a certified smoke-blower....
Cas is correct, of course....the Savage 24 P series were more utilitarian, but the basic functions are no different from any of the others. And $300 for a Mdl 24 is a bargain, at least by today's price standards.
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Post by czvz on Aug 8, 2014 11:45:23 GMT -5
I'm not saying there junk, someone on another forum made that claim. I can't get my head around how, firing would twist the barrel/barrels either. Thank you, cas for putting my mind at ease! I knew this would be the best forum for factual information. When I get it off of layaway, I will post pics! The metal/bluing is in good shape. Just the butt stock is not original, it has a pistol grip and no trap door, perhaps thats why it was marked $350.00. The rear sight was interesting it was an apperature that would pivot like a pendulum for windage and a wheel that turned for elevation... would this be typical?  Thanks CZVZ |
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Post by gman on Aug 8, 2014 12:34:03 GMT -5
The rear sight was interesting it was an apperature that would pivot like a pendulum for windage and a wheel that turned for elevation... would this be typical? That does not sound like a OEM sight for any Savage 24. Can you post a picture of it? |
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Post by czvz on Aug 8, 2014 13:30:24 GMT -5
Sure, as soon as I can get it off layaway....... It may be up to 2 weeks though
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Aug 8, 2014 16:12:19 GMT -5
$300 is a good deal on a 24C that remains in stock configuration. They seem to have more collector value than the others for some reason. Probably the cool-factor of the trapdoor in the buttstock.
I have a 24C series N. Now, I am sure there are plenty of good ones out there, but.... The vertical regulation on mine is just plain awful. ~18" apart at 25 yards when I got it. I wedged between the barrels and got it up to 6-8", but it's still pretty bad. I think the only way to fix it proper will be to do some machining and shimming on the barrel band, but I am afeer'd of messing it up, as I bought is as more of an investment gun than a shooter. Also, the cylinder bore of the shotgun barrel makes it less useful for hunting. Maybe 15 yards maximum, before it spreads too much to work very well.
Based on that experience that I had with mine, I would be leery of buying that one without being able to shoot it first and see if it shoots decent. If it had the original buttstock on it, though, I'd snap it up at $300 and if it didn't shoot good I'd either keep it as an investment or list it on gunbroker and patiently try to get $550 or so out of it. But without the original stock I think it loses some resale value....
Just my opinion, and I am sure there are plenty of good 24Cs out there. And I probably also don't know what I am talking about in general. But I feel like mine is really pretty and is gaining value while it sleeps in my gun safe, but I can't say I am very fond of it as a shooter.
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Post by colonel3006 on Aug 9, 2014 16:36:14 GMT -5
I have the exact same gun with the pistol grip stock and I absolutely love it. At $300 I would say you got a good deal, I paid $550 for mine and don't regret 1 penny. I have fired 2500-3000 22 rounds and 250 20 ga rounds without any issues out of mine. My only complaint is that I am not real found of the front sight on mine just because it is too thick, but am used to it now and can hit empty 20ga hulls at 20 yds fairly consistently with the. 22. Still thinking of maybe putting a red dot on just haven't gotten around to it yet.
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Aug 9, 2014 19:28:15 GMT -5
Hm! Did the 24C series P come from the factory with the pistol grip stock?
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Post by cas on Aug 9, 2014 22:58:33 GMT -5
Mine don't. And they're not in the catalog that way. The Field Grades had them. But it's Savage, so who knows. They changed the 24 every time the wind changed directions. That's got me thinking, are there any other companies/guns that changed one model so may times? (or rather sold so many different guns as "the same model" even though it wasn't)
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Post by Timmy on Aug 12, 2014 7:56:39 GMT -5
Look, if these wise folks haven't eased your mind, I'll take it off your hands for what you paid for it, plus shipping and I'll throw in$10 for your trouble. No worries!
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Post by colonel3006 on Aug 12, 2014 9:22:13 GMT -5
Mine don't. And they're not in the catalog that way. The Field Grades had them. But it's Savage, so who knows. They changed the 24 every time the wind changed directions. That's got me thinking, are there any other companies/guns that changed one model so may times? (or rather sold so many different guns as "the same model" even though it wasn't) After seeing this post it got me wondering so I have been looking on the net for any info. I couldn't find any written info about c series having pistol grip stocks but after looking at 50 listings or so I seen 2 others with these stocks. Not original stocks or did savage make some with them? Who knows. As you said so many different models with no changes. |
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Post by czvz on Aug 12, 2014 11:42:46 GMT -5
I can't wait any longer....... I might pick it up this week! Stay tuned, Pic's will be posted soon!
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Post by czvz on Aug 13, 2014 11:40:16 GMT -5
Sorry for the poor cell phone photos, but I think you can see the general appearance. Soohhhwahhh ........ what do you think? Is that a sight that Savage may have used? Is the Butt Stock A Savage buttstock..... I kinda think it might be off of a Remington. I know it definitely dose not match the grain and coloration of the forearm. Thanks for all who have replied CZVZ |
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Post by gman on Aug 13, 2014 13:03:24 GMT -5
First off, Congrats that is a nice looking 24.
There are alot of configurations made of the Stevens/Savage 24. That being said I have have not seen that sight on any Savage 24, but that does not 100% guarantee that it is not a OEM part. What is the writing on the sight? As for the stock again hard to tell, Savage did make stocks like that for the 24, possibly stock or forearm was replaced which would cause grain mismatch
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