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Post by 24vjessie on Dec 16, 2014 10:37:53 GMT -5
Hello everyone!
I just joined up since I picked up a 24V series D.
It's a 30-30/20ga.
I've been reading everything here and found some good info.
When I take my gun to the range, I'd like to be able to make any needed changes there and wondered how do you get the shims in the barrel band when regulating barrels?
It's solid with no means that I can see to remove it or loosen it. Do you just slide whatever material you're using in with a wood dowel or something?
I understand a little goes a long way so is it best to leave the shim over size until you figure out what's needed so its easier to move or remove it and add to it ?
While I'm here, what's the best to use for stock refinishing, Tung oil or Linseed?
Thanks in advance and looking forward to learning all about this unique gun!
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Dec 16, 2014 16:58:54 GMT -5
I slid mine in with the barrel band off (you take the screw completely out, and then the barrel band slides off; it may be seized on, though and require a sharp rap with the nylon side of a gunsmithing hammer) while I was putting some shim material in there. With the way the barrels get closer together as they go towards the breech, you can slide the wedge back and forth a little to find-tune it if it's kind close to being right but not quite.
Is yours one of the later ones that's got the muzzle end thing that is like the 24F? I've never messed with one of those... But I'd cut something that will fit into the widest part between the barrels and then slide it back.
Or you may be able to cut a couple of little quarter-sections of steel tubing on a bandsaw so as to get some arcing little pieces of metal washer sorts of thingies, and then drill a hole through them for a small machine screw. Then you could put one on either side of the barrels, with the screw between the barrels. Then with a nut on the screw, you could tighten it down, bringing the two arcing pieces of metal together and forcing the barrels apart. If you know what I mean? Then you could put a jam nut on to keep it from getting out of whack and cut off the end of the screw sticking out and shoot it all with some black paint. Maybe a few dabs of superglue to make sure it doesn't scoot around.
Clear as mud I am sure, heh. Maybe I will try it once hunting season is over and post some pictures if it works....
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Post by 24vjessie on Dec 16, 2014 21:00:20 GMT -5
Thanks, I pretty much followed you through it!
Are you talking about taking the front sight screw out to remove the band?
That's the only screw I can see.
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Post by Mr. Polecat on Dec 17, 2014 1:23:49 GMT -5
You must have one of the later ones. As far as I know, and I don't know much........ The early ones are fully soldered, like this:  The 1970s ones are like this, with a barrel band:  The 1980s ones are like this:  Mine is like the one in the middle. Which do you have, the bottom one? I've never had any like the bottom one, sadly, so I am not quite sure what to tell you about that.  |
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Post by 24vjessie on Dec 17, 2014 8:04:27 GMT -5
Yep, it's the bottom 80s model. I'll figure something out if its needed. If I'm lucky, it won't be.
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Post by 24vjessie on Dec 17, 2014 19:55:34 GMT -5
I haven't shot it yet but I did refinish the stock.
Just couldn't take the finish they put on it. Covered any grain that was there.
I stripped it and sanded it down with crocus cloth until it was smooth as glass. Then mixed some walnut gunstock stain with some red oak at 3to1 and hit it twice.
When dry I crocused any rough spots and put a coat of Tung oil on it. When that dried I smoothed it with 0000 steel wool and put a second coat on.
It wasn't walnut, but it is now! It came out great.
If I can figure out how to post some pics I will when its finished and back together.
Next comes the meat&potatoes with sighting in and regulating if needed.
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Post by cas on Dec 19, 2014 2:28:05 GMT -5
You're lucky, a lot of those 80's guns are snow white under the painted on "stain".
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Post by hardracer on Dec 19, 2014 20:38:10 GMT -5
That stock ought to look pretty sweet with what you say you've done!
On another note i dont know if this would be actually the right place to post this....but as im reading/thinking here..
How would/do you regulate full soldered barrels?
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Post by 24vjessie on Dec 19, 2014 22:32:17 GMT -5
Hard racer, I'm too new to this gun to know other than dual rear sights. I don't know how else you could do it.
As for the seperate barrels, why didn't Savage put 3 machine screws through the barrel band at 6:00 o'clock and 9:00 and 3:00 on the shotgun barrel?
It would be easy to move the shot barrel and lock it down.
If needed, I may do that to mine.
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Post by cas on Dec 19, 2014 23:59:22 GMT -5
Because they were cheap utility guns. And they don't really need to shoot to the rifle sights.
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