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Post by odell23 on Jan 15, 2014 8:43:14 GMT -5
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Post by odell23 on Jan 15, 2014 8:41:54 GMT -5
Scott,
In reference to the discussion here and in the other thread with bigkelly, there is a 3rd barrel set variety. Now that you've discovered you have a 24V, and not a 24V-A, 24V Series B, 24V Series C, or 24V Series D, you need to determine if it is a 24V Type 1 or Type 2. The first produced 24V (the Type 1) is unusual in that it had a ramped style front sight and a barrel band that was cut across the top to accomodate the sight. The second 24V produced (the Type 2) has the complete barrel band with the front sight integrated into it. If your rifle barrel has a drilled and tapped hole on the top which is where the ramped front sight would sit, then it's a Type 1. If no hole exists, then it's a Type 2.
Good luck with the project!
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Post by odell23 on Jan 6, 2014 12:18:21 GMT -5
It has a C in the serial number which I believe makes it a 1951 vintage, but not sure on that. Not sure where you came to that conclusion from, but I'm interested to know if you can share. Serial numbers don't appear on any Savage 24 until 1968. The Model 24V line doesn't start until 1966, making the earliest a 24V could have been made 1965. The order these guns were made in were the 24V, 24V-A, 24V Series B, 24V Series C, & 24V Series D. The 24V Series B guns are from the 1973-1976 time frame. Hope this helps answer some of those questions for you.
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my 24F
Jan 3, 2014 10:03:57 GMT -5
Post by odell23 on Jan 3, 2014 10:03:57 GMT -5
Okay, now it feels like your just checking my observation skills here! The top picture is a Type 3 24C-DL (hammer barrel selector), but the bottom picture is a Type 1 De Luxe (left side button .410 barrel selector) which is either a 24-DL or 24C-DL. So are they different guns or did you modify the bottom gun by adding the hammer selector?
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Post by odell23 on Jan 3, 2014 9:53:54 GMT -5
KD8EGV,
The fox panel engraving on the left with the turkey panel engraving on the right side of the frame is common to all the 24DL De Luxe, the early 24D Deluxe, and some of the 24V Centerfire guns. It does not appear on the early 24, 24S Sidelever, 24C Camper's Companion, 24 Field Grade, 24VS, or 24CS guns. There is a scroll pattern engraving that is on the 24F guns on both sides of the frame. The only other engraving style is on some of the 24V/F transition guns which feature the same fox panel engraving on the left and a grouse panel engraving on the right.
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my 24F
Jan 2, 2014 9:04:22 GMT -5
Post by odell23 on Jan 2, 2014 9:04:22 GMT -5
That is a cool scope on that Type 3 Model 24C-DL. What are the specs on the scope?
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Post by odell23 on Dec 27, 2013 8:47:39 GMT -5
I'll take a look through the literature and get back to you on it. My guess would be 1:9
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Post by odell23 on Dec 26, 2013 9:39:33 GMT -5
john54,
I think your assumption about switched barrels are correct. With the 24D Series M your talking late 1960's early 1970's and the switch from brazed barrels to separated barrels. The Savage parts catalogs do show a different firing pin for both the .22lr and .22mag. It's not that far off base to think the barrel sets and/or frames might have some dimensional differences too.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 24, 2013 14:42:39 GMT -5
I wish every one a very happy holiday! +1 I asked Santa for a Savage 24 under the tree for all of us! Fingers crossed...
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Post by odell23 on Dec 23, 2013 10:38:02 GMT -5
Contradictory information is all I kept running into when I was researching the Model 24. Hence my desire to write a book on them. Some of the historical information will likely never have a resolution.
For what it's worth, the 1918 is likely a typo. As far as I'm concerned, 1939 is the correct date for the start of the Stevens Model 22-410. Savage says 1939 in their literature, and if it was made in 1938 why didn't it appear in the 1939 catalog? Mostly because 1939 was the 75th anniversary year for the J Stevens Arms Co and the production of many new models began in that year and appear in the 1939 Stevens catalog. However the Model 22-410 does not appear until the 1940 Stevens catalog. With the entire line of Stevens/Savage combination guns, production of the next year's gun began the year before. Kinda like buying a 2014 car in late 2013.
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24vs
Dec 19, 2013 9:23:29 GMT -5
Post by odell23 on Dec 19, 2013 9:23:29 GMT -5
Don't be fooled. It's a Model 24V-A. The seller is either not well informed about what he has or he's trying to get the higher prices that a 24VS brings versus what a 24V-A is worth. My guess it's the former versus the latter.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 14, 2013 21:51:47 GMT -5
Winkman, no worries. If you still wanna send em, you know where to find me.
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Post by odell23 on Dec 6, 2013 12:59:54 GMT -5
The 34th Edition of Gun Traders has the information about the 24VS and 24V line comingled which is false. The 24V line (which includes the 24V, 24V-A, 24V Series B, 24V Series C, and 24V Series D) ran from 1966 through 1988. The 24VS and 24CS (not to be confused with the 24C Camper Companion) were only made in 1983 and 1984. The 24VS was a 24V Series D with 20" barrels and a satin nickel finish on all metal parts. In 1983 it was only chambered in .357 S&W Magnum but in 1984 added .357 Remington Maximum and both over the standard 20 gauge. The 24CS was a 24C Series S (which already had 20" barrels) with a satin nickel finish on all metal parts in the standard .22lr/20ga configuration. The higher grade walnut on both had an oil rubbed finish. In addition to the standard stock, they both came with a pistol grip accessory that you could change out the stock for. The "S" in both VS and CS stands for "Survival" model.
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Post by odell23 on Nov 9, 2013 11:08:32 GMT -5
Hey TexasBAD, where did you come up with your avatar. It looks like some of the artwork from 24 ads in the 1960's and 70's. Never seen one like that one before.
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New guy
Nov 9, 2013 11:04:49 GMT -5
Post by odell23 on Nov 9, 2013 11:04:49 GMT -5
Actually Geoffrey, you just answered a question for me. A while back I asked here on the board if anyone had either a 24S-D with a serial number or a 24S-E without one. Because the Gun Control Act of 1968 took effect in October 1968, and I had not yet seen a 24S-D with a serial number or a 24S-E with out one, I figured Savage tried to make a clean break in that line (E.G. 24S-D was made before the serial number went into effect and the 24S-E was after). Now, because of your gun, I know that the production of the 24S-E started in 1968 before October. It's pretty cool how much this board helps out in refining the history and our understanding of these guns.
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