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Post by neilrr on Dec 20, 2014 7:53:17 GMT -5
At a gun show yesterday I had a chance to take a good long look at a new Chiappa Double Badger .22/.410. The gun is made very well with very good fit up and finish. The trigger pull was diffidently over 5 pounds. It took a lot to open this combo gun, probably too much, as it adversely affected my thoughts of purchasing one even with a hefty discount by the dealer. The dealer finally admitted that he was offering the discount because all of these guns that he has had in the past were all very hard to open. This issue has been a major complaint by his potential buyers especially hunters who were looking to be able to reload quickly. When compared to my 24 which locks up very tight, but open much easier, I would choose the 24 .22/.410 every time.
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Post by neilrr on Dec 17, 2014 17:27:33 GMT -5
You need to take out other components before you can remove the hammer and the main spring assembly. Unfortunately I am on my way out to a welding class tonight associated with my gunsmithing certification. I had previously put together a rough version of instructions for disassembling the older version 24s for my own use. It has not been published. I will try to get it in better shape within the next couple of days and post it here if you are interested. If you cannot wait try going to jamessazacharyjr.blogspot.com. There is a set of photos and instructions you can follow to disassemble/reassemble the 24. Once you have the gun disassembled if you follow the instructions in the link I sent earlier this will help you to easily install the main spring assembly on the reassembly process. Good luck.
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Post by neilrr on Dec 17, 2014 13:15:40 GMT -5
Welcome. Disassembling the 24 is not very difficult if you follow the above link. One major problem area is removing and reinstalling the main spring, you need three hands. I previously posted step by step instructions on how to do this in a simple fashion, see the link below: savage24forum.boards.net/thread/591/disassemble-reassemble-main-spring-older 24s You can usually find parts at Numrich Gun Parts. If they are out of stock then try "Out Back Gun Parts, Inc" located in New Albany, IN, phone number: 812-945-0480, website: www.outbackgunparts.com, or email: outbackgunpartsws@sbcglobal.net. If you try Out Back you will need to send him a picture of the part(s) from the gun's schematic including part number, and all of the specifics about your gun. He is not the cheapest place to get parts, but usually has the right parts. Good luck. If you need any help just ask.
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Post by neilrr on Dec 8, 2014 8:24:47 GMT -5
Since you have not stated the condition of the gun as to how heavy the trigger pull is (greater than 5 lbs, greater than 12 lbs?) or the last time it was completely stripped and trigger system lubricated the following are general comments. The condition of the trigger system, i.e. dirty or rough can certainly cause a heavy trigger pull. The gun may just need cleaning and lubricating or the trigger/sear to hammer connection may be rough and need smoothing and lubricating. A good gunsmith can easily advise you as to what is required and do the work for you. Doing a trigger job is something you need to let a professional do unless you are trained and know what you are doing. An improper trigger job can make the gun unsafe to use. Having a trigger job done on the gun correctly will not ruin or devalue the gun, it would certainly improve its operation.
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Post by neilrr on Dec 4, 2014 7:54:16 GMT -5
The state is New Jersey (NJ), which is somewhat better than New York, Connecticut, and California where I lived from 1985 - 1998. Back in the early 1970's I lived in a much more gun tolerant California and would go shooting in the mountains north east of where I lived and worked. In those days you still had to register your firearms like today in NJ, but the gun laws were more user friendly. I could ride to the mountains on my motorcycle with a unloaded rifle strapped to the bike and carrying an unloaded sidearm in a holster outside my jacket with no problems or fear of reprisals from law enforcement. In fact, most law enforcement officers were very friendly to gun owners. It is not all that bad here in NJ as long as you follow the state's gun laws. Since I have a firearms purchaser's permit for rifles and shotguns I can purchase these any time I want with no limit or waiting period. A handgun is another issue if you do not have an FFL. You must apply for handgun permits each time and it takes 6-8 weeks or longer to obtain these permits. You can get only 3 permits at a time, they are good for 90 days each, but you can only buy one handgun every 30 days. So you make sure you have the handguns already available at your local FFL gun dealer before the permits arrive. You can get a one time extension on these permits for another 90 days if you need extra time. Lastly, these permits are usually issued through your local law enforcement agency, in my case the local sheriff. If for any reason the sheriff does not approve of your application you cannot purchase a handgun then or in the future. So it is best to keep on the good side of your local law enforcement agency. My local sheriff's office is great to work with, especially since I am a trained gunsmith, but do not have an FFL. Being retired I have a lot of time to work my various gun projects and do enjoy going shooting each week with my wife at the local range just across the state border in Pennsylvania, which is a more tolerant gun owner friendly state. As I look at it, as bad as it might seem it could be worse.
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Post by neilrr on Dec 3, 2014 10:01:09 GMT -5
Any luck with obtaining the parts from Out Back? They have been great for finding hard to find or unusual parts, especially on older guns. If I remember correctly there should be no problem with sending the order overseas if it is less than $100 (US).
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Post by neilrr on Dec 3, 2014 9:57:45 GMT -5
David - that is still quite good for that distance with iron sights with a 24. I wish I could just go out in my back yard to practice. Unfortunately the laws in this state do not allow that, but if I visit my daughter and son in law one state over I could do that. In this state must be at an approved indoor/outdoor range or on land approved for hunting. Good luck with the walnuts.
Neil
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Post by neilrr on Dec 2, 2014 9:13:45 GMT -5
David - My eyes are like yours. They are old and are very accustomed to iron sights especially for shots at 25 - 50 yards or less. Do not like scopes if I can avoid them even on my newer rifles. I was taught to shot by my father with iron sights and that is my preference. Good luck with sighting in you gun.
Neil
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Post by neilrr on Nov 30, 2014 22:19:53 GMT -5
Nice tight pattern at 25 yards using a peep sight. Were you using a rest to stabilize your gun or were you shooting without one?
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Post by neilrr on Nov 30, 2014 22:15:21 GMT -5
The reserve has been met at $2,000 with less than an hour to go. CAS is right, the trigger guard's black paint is flaking, but the rest of the gun is in great shape. The aluminum trigger guard's black paint on my 22/410 was also flaking, so I just buffed off the paint and redid it with aluminum black at a modest cost of about $6. So I guess the owner should give the buyer a $6 refund on the $2,000 bid to compensate him or maybe her to make this repair.
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Post by neilrr on Nov 30, 2014 16:26:21 GMT -5
This is one very expensive looking gun. I have seen shotguns that were less ornate that went for many thousands of dollars. I live near Hackettstown, NJ where this gun shop is located, but never saw it there. I plan to check back later to see what the final price was.
As a comparison, I attended an auction yesterday in the hope of purchasing another 22/410 that required very little work to be a reliable good looking gun. My last purchase required a complete overhaul, it was rusted, very dirty with many layers of caked on grease, and required many new parts before it was completely functioning and presentable. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed repairing the gun, but this time I wanted one that was ready to go with minimal work. Well, I was thoroughly disappointed when I finally was able to strip the gun prior to the auction. The gun was what I would call a plain Jane model with no engraving at all. The stock, receiver, and barrel had several deep scratches and dents, and the bluing was missing is several places. The stock was bad enough that it would have been easier and cheaper to purchase a new one than to try and fix the existing stock. The 22 barrel was so dirty you could not see the bore even with a bore light and the shotgun barrel was not much cleaner. The firing system internals were also very dirty, but functioned. The gun sold for $450 including local sales tax and registration with the initial bid starting at $200 that escalated very quickly to the final bid. Per the auctioneer's description prior to the sale, the gun was in perfect shape and could be used today for hunting. The following statement holds true in this situation: "How can you tell an auctioneer is lying to you? His mouth is open and sound is coming out!"
Well I will keep looking and I hope I can do better next time.
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Post by neilrr on Nov 27, 2014 7:12:06 GMT -5
jason 24V: The front side looks a lot like one that would fit an earlier model 22/410. That sight also attaches to the barrel with a screw. Numrich has plastic versions of these front sights, but no original metal ones. You could also try finding the original metal front sight at "Out Back Gun Parts, Inc" located in New Albany, IN, phone number: 812-945-0480, website: www.outbackgunparts.com, or email: outbackgunpartsws@sbcglobal.net. You will need to send him a picture of the part(s) from the gun's schematic including part number, and all of the specifics about your gun. oldheron: As to a barrel band for the 24VA, you could try "Out Back Gun Parts Inc". Numrich is out of these also.
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Post by neilrr on Nov 25, 2014 7:20:48 GMT -5
loganboone - can you advise your email address. The cuffs are well worth the cost based upon pictures and previous posts by others who have purchased your cuff. They make a great addition to the 24. Thanks.
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Post by neilrr on Nov 23, 2014 15:49:48 GMT -5
Captcapsize, you can go to "Uncle Mikes" web site and look under hammer extensions to see if they have one or send them an email asking if they have one that they would recommend for your specific Stevens 24 model. I was able to find a hammer extension that worked great for my Henry lever action when I mounted a scope.
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Post by neilrr on Nov 23, 2014 15:42:59 GMT -5
Refer to the thread entitled "How to I.D. different Stevens Savage Combo guns". This will help you determine the year that your gun was manufactured. The thread can be found on the Savage 24 forum main page - it is one of the first threads.
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